I want Coach Tang to stay. I think the world of him.

[learnin]

And if Tang was as big a charlatan as he is being made out to be, learnin, his blatant display of behavior that would be deemed un-Christian-like would be all over the news, don't you think? So far, that has not happened. There are so many things in this world that are so much more offensive, I struggle to understand your hatred for the man who has done nothing to you. There's gotta be something else. Tell us what it is.

Hatred of the man? Not at all. I was excited as any poster, here, over the hire. I was excited that the basketball program hired an African American coach. It was past time. I was excited that coach was from Baylor, a successful program. Gradually, I became concerned with over the top salesmanship, rhetoric and religious expression. The purple couch, dancing in the stands, giving his number out to students, it’s all too good to be true. And it was. We humans are flawed and seldom does a human do any thing with purely selfless intentions. Take myself. I could say I’m writing this only out of a pure motive of what’s best for the program. But, perhaps, there’s a little of I told you so in between the lines. With the season going downhill, and the student support waning, coach reprimanded the students by reminding them of all the things he had done for them. He expected them to return the favor and show up en masse. It’s always best for we human beings to limit our preachiness and public displays of good works. It always comes back to embarrass us at some point.

If this is as far as it went, I wouldn’t press the issue. My main concern is the real harm that can ensue whenever this crazy faith stuff is disseminated throughout society. If you see no danger from a person believing that God gives championships to people who put him first, then I see why you think I must be motivated by a hidden agenda. In that case, there’s nothing I can say that could change your mind.

[ksuatheart]

If the man's word is good, he won't be going even if Baylor comes calling.

[SCKSCat]

Tang has never said that God will give K State a national championship.
He has said that there is no reason. why a conference or national championship could not be won here. This is something that even a confident secular coach will believe.
Unfortunately, people misconstrue Tang’s desire to live a Spirit led life. He believes that anyone who is a follower of Christ should be open to being used by him to glorify Him. Tang has said wherever God places him he will serve. I understand these thoughts quite clearly because I am fellow Christian, but to a non-believer this is folly and foolishness. If Tang was a rabid advocate for castrating pets and was outspoken about it, would this be acceptable; it made Bob Barker a hero. A man has to quiet about his faith in Jesus, but is lauded as a cultural hero for advocating some social cause. I think that it is fine for players and coaches to share themselves with others.

[spot2180]

And if Tang was as big a charlatan as he is being made out to be, learnin, his blatant display of behavior that would be deemed un-Christian-like would be all over the news, don't you think? So far, that has not happened. There are so many things in this world that are so much more offensive, I struggle to understand your hatred for the man who has done nothing to you. There's gotta be something else. Tell us what it is.

Hatred of the man? Not at all. I was excited as any poster, here, over the hire. I was excited that the basketball program hired an African American coach. It was past time. I was excited that coach was from Baylor, a successful program. Gradually, I became concerned with over the top salesmanship, rhetoric and religious expression. The purple couch, dancing in the stands, giving his number out to students, it’s all too good to be true. And it was. We humans are flawed and seldom does a human do any thing with purely selfless intentions. Take myself. I could say I’m writing this only out of a pure motive of what’s best for the program. But, perhaps, there’s a little of I told you so in between the lines. With the season going downhill, and the student support waning, coach reprimanded the students by reminding them of all the things he had done for them. He expected them to return the favor and show up en masse. It’s always best for we human beings to limit our preachiness and public displays of good works. It always comes back to embarrass us at some point.

If this is as far as it went, I wouldn’t press the issue. My main concern is the real harm that can ensue whenever this crazy faith stuff is disseminated throughout society. If you see no danger from a person believing that God gives championships to people who put him first, then I see why you think I must be motivated by a hidden agenda. In that case, there’s nothing I can say that could change your mind.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting Tang is perfect. He'd be the first one to tell you he is not. You'd rather have a coach that doesn't 'sell' his program? You don't think Weber tried to sell his program to recruits and the fans? Rhetoric? Religious expression? Are you not seeing those two as one in the same? He did. And it is funny that you mention 'between the lines'. You can perceive pretty much whatever you want when you want to see something. From my point of view, none of your beefs, your "pressing the issue", with Tang adds up to the clear disdain you feel for the man, which makes me think there is something else, something more fundamental that you just can't get past it, but you are hesitant to say it.

At the end of the day, learnin, you are spending far too much time being negative over this. You have Tang in a position that he can never change the way you think about him. Anyone who has been on these boards for any length of time knows how you feel about a number of topics. I am not telling you that you HAVE to support Tang. I am telling you that you are kicking a horse that won't get up and walk, trot, or gallop again. But you will do what you do for reasons that you won't divulge. You can do what you want, like anyone else, but at the end of the day, you are in a room by yourself talking to no one. Tang leaving the program does more harm to KSU than it does good at this point. I don't think Drew will leave Baylor, but if he does, Baylor is likely one of the few programs Tang will leave KState for. Then a coaching search will happen again, and I sincerely doubt the Cats would find a guy available right now that would bring the energy to the program like Tang does and did.

[SCKSCat]

So for the sake of discussion.
If Drew takes the Kentucky job, would Tang be the first choice.
In Fitz's Daily Delivery he speculated it may be Grant McCassland, TxTech coach.
He is 47 and a graduate of Baylor. He got TxTech to the NCAA Tournament this year and a has done well in past coaching stops. He has Texas roots. Likely would be easier to pry aware from TxTech. He would be a program builder since he was not at Baylor a long time as a coach. Tang would be a caretaker for Scott Drew's program and not a builder of his own program. Tang I believe is 57, would Baylor want a younger man who will be with the program a long time?

[Snyder]

And if Tang was as big a charlatan as he is being made out to be, learnin, his blatant display of behavior that would be deemed un-Christian-like would be all over the news, don't you think? So far, that has not happened. There are so many things in this world that are so much more offensive, I struggle to understand your hatred for the man who has done nothing to you. There's gotta be something else. Tell us what it is.

Hatred of the man? Not at all. I was excited as any poster, here, over the hire. I was excited that the basketball program hired an African American coach. It was past time. I was excited that coach was from Baylor, a successful program. Gradually, I became concerned with over the top salesmanship, rhetoric and religious expression. The purple couch, dancing in the stands, giving his number out to students, it’s all too good to be true. And it was. We humans are flawed and seldom does a human do any thing with purely selfless intentions. Take myself. I could say I’m writing this only out of a pure motive of what’s best for the program. But, perhaps, there’s a little of I told you so in between the lines. With the season going downhill, and the student support waning, coach reprimanded the students by reminding them of all the things he had done for them. He expected them to return the favor and show up en masse. It’s always best for we human beings to limit our preachiness and public displays of good works. It always comes back to embarrass us at some point.

If this is as far as it went, I wouldn’t press the issue. My main concern is the real harm that can ensue whenever this crazy faith stuff is disseminated throughout society. If you see no danger from a person believing that God gives championships to people who put him first, then I see why you think I must be motivated by a hidden agenda. In that case, there’s nothing I can say that could change your mind.

[SCKSCat]

I am at point where I am just giving up. Not a dang thing I can do about the situation other than suffer the negative fallout if things go south. Fans really don't matter it seems. I would love for Tang to stay and help bring special memories to this program.

[wild@nite]

I am at point where I am just giving up. Not a dang thing I can do about the situation other than suffer the negative fallout if things go south. Fans really don't matter it seems. I would love for Tang to stay and help bring special memories to this program.

Welcome to the group. It just isn't worth my time to be too concerned anymore. I'll be a Cat fan for life and there will be turnover, lots of it, in the system that's present now, so we better get used to it. Hope for the best, but expect the unexpected.

[SCKSCat]

I hope plan B is to Coach Maligi a chance to the head coach if Coach Tang would take the Baylor job. I would also try to keep Coach Perry, and Coach Dowling. Bourne would likely leave with Tang. Kind of the same mindset when we kept Martin as the HC. Coach Maligi won't curse and use foul language like Martin did though.

In 13 seasons as a coach, Maligi has been a part of seven 20-plus win seasons and an assistant coach of six NCAA Tournament teams. Maligi has coached and/or recruit 17 NBA players, including Emmanuel Mudiay, Shake Milton and Robert Williams.

The Athletic recognized Maligi as a 40 under 40 rising star in college basketball in the fall of 2020.[1] ESPN also selected Maligi as one of the nation's top college basketball coaches under the age of 40.

And we would not break the hearts of other fanbases.

[stlcatfan]

I hope plan B is to Coach Maligi a chance to the head coach if Coach Tang would take the Baylor job. I would also try to keep Coach Perry, and Coach Dowling. Bourne would likely leave with Tang. Kind of the same mindset when we kept Martin as the HC. Coach Maligi won't curse and use foul language like Martin did though.

In 13 seasons as a coach, Maligi has been a part of seven 20-plus win seasons and an assistant coach of six NCAA Tournament teams. Maligi has coached and/or recruit 17 NBA players, including Emmanuel Mudiay, Shake Milton and Robert Williams.

The Athletic recognized Maligi as a 40 under 40 rising star in college basketball in the fall of 2020.[1] ESPN also selected Maligi as one of the nation's top college basketball coaches under the age of 40.

And we would not break the hearts of other fanbases.

If Tang would leave for Baylor, which I don't think he will at this point, then yeah, I think Maligi would be a good choice. If Drew does leave for Kentucky, it sounds like Grant McCasland would be the first choice to replace Drew and then maybe Coach Tang.