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Re: CFP mess

Post by bhoovy » December 31st, 2023, 10:15 pm

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December 31st, 2023, 9:08 pm
Couldn't Georgia make a very similar argument to have been in the playoffs? Two time defending champs were left out and only lost 2 games in the last three years to then run a 13 -0 team off the field by the largest margin in bowl history. Their only loss in the last 2 years was by 3 in the conference championship game. This happened to TCU last year and they still made the playoffs.

At least they did not vote against expanding to 12 teams last year.
Sure Georgia has an argument against Texas and Alabama, but they didn’t finish undefeated and FSU did.

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Post by Zoltar » December 31st, 2023, 11:08 pm

So did Liberty and did they lose their starting QB to injury?
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Post by bhoovy » January 1st, 2024, 12:49 am

Zoltar wrote:
December 31st, 2023, 11:08 pm
So did Liberty and did they lose their starting QB to injury?
I think it’s pretty easy to differentiate between FSU’s schedule and Liberty’s. But I do hope they beat Oregon, but don’t believe they will.

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Post by wild@nite » January 1st, 2024, 7:11 am

Zoltar wrote:
December 31st, 2023, 9:08 pm
Couldn't Georgia make a very similar argument to have been in the playoffs? Two time defending champs were left out and only lost 2 games in the last three years to then run a 13 -0 team off the field by the largest margin in bowl history. Their only loss in the last 2 years was by 3 in the conference championship game. This happened to TCU last year and they still made the playoffs.

At least they did not vote against expanding to 12 teams last year.
Sure Georgia could, but we're they an undefeated P5 conference champion? 🤔 UNDEFEATED always gets you to the playoffs in any sport not named figure skating or gymnastics. Oh, accept in FBS football... the most ridiculously ran sport I've ever witnessed. Defend it if you wish, but it's being fixed for a reason. Division 2 and D3 has had it right for years. Same for Juco, NAIA, and HS football. Why hasn't FBS D1? Please explain why peewee football all the way to the NFL has it right, accept D1 FBS? I'd love to hear a logical explanation.
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Post by Zoltar » January 1st, 2024, 7:56 am

It is the nature of how it was designed. 5 teams can't fit into 4 spots. You do not seem to understand that. Then when given the opportunity to make that 12 teams THIS year, FSU voted against it,

Funny how that worked out for them and then getting boatraced in the bowl proves they should have been the 5th one and out.

You want to give them a participation trophy they don't deserve. The contest was designed to be judged. They knew it and while competing in skating figure 8s they were perfect but their freestyle points did not make the cut. The rules of the game never stated win and in.

Bringing up schedule strength also brings judgment into play. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Post by spot2180 » January 1st, 2024, 9:13 am

Had Florida State been in the playoff, I doubt those players would have opted out. Of course that doesn't mean they'd win, but the result of the Georgia beat down is much much less diminished.

And the SEC and the Big10 will be getting participation trophies for their third teams in the expanded playoffs. Teams will always be upset due to stacking the tournament with those two conferences 'also rans' when other deserving teams should be in there. You will see a three loss SEC/Big10 team get in over an undefeated or one-loss team from a 'lesser conference'. I don't think it will be designed to be fair to all of college football.
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Post by bahweepgronnaweep » January 1st, 2024, 10:30 am

Zoltar wrote:
January 1st, 2024, 7:56 am
It is the nature of how it was designed. 5 teams can't fit into 4 spots. You do not seem to understand that. Then when given the opportunity to make that 12 teams THIS year, FSU voted against it,

Funny how that worked out for them and then getting boatraced in the bowl proves they should have been the 5th one and out.

You want to give them a participation trophy they don't deserve. The contest was designed to be judged. They knew it and while competing in skating figure 8s they were perfect but their freestyle points did not make the cut. The rules of the game never stated win and in.

Bringing up schedule strength also brings judgment into play. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Their loss to Georgia doesn't prove anything. The fact you think it does speaks volumes.
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Post by Tbonespop » January 1st, 2024, 11:25 am

bahweepgronnaweep wrote:
January 1st, 2024, 10:30 am
Zoltar wrote:
January 1st, 2024, 7:56 am
It is the nature of how it was designed. 5 teams can't fit into 4 spots. You do not seem to understand that. Then when given the opportunity to make that 12 teams THIS year, FSU voted against it,

Funny how that worked out for them and then getting boatraced in the bowl proves they should have been the 5th one and out.

You want to give them a participation trophy they don't deserve. The contest was designed to be judged. They knew it and while competing in skating figure 8s they were perfect but their freestyle points did not make the cut. The rules of the game never stated win and in.

Bringing up schedule strength also brings judgment into play. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Their loss to Georgia doesn't prove anything. The fact you think it does speaks volumes.
I'm thinking there has to be more to it, dude is way too passionate about defending his position on that game and being anti-FSU. To each their own. Happy 2024 everyone!
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Post by tmcats » January 1st, 2024, 12:28 pm

i'm not anti-fsu but thought the committee got it right from the get-go, do not believe our a.d. is a espn influenced scoundrel, and point out that both peach bowl teams were down 27 players, and further that the uga game proved fsu not cfp worthy. the problem was not the selection but the 4-team format. stop calling good people corrupt.

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Post by ToledoCat#3 » January 1st, 2024, 12:41 pm

I predict in the first 12-team playoff format this year there will be a huge, fervent discussion about who is in and who is out of the 12 spot. ;)))

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