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Post by stlcatfan » April 7th, 2023, 7:08 am

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Snyder #1 often had 2 deep depth, Snyder #2 did have problems with depth. Maybe why we had so many 10 win seasons in Snyder # 1.
The other issue was that due to Snyder's age in his second go 'round, other coaches could tell recruits that Snyder would likely retire before they graduated. Of course, Snyder hung in much longer than everyone thought. But still, it did affect not only player depth, but assistant coaches as well. Coaches weren't willing to leave their current position to take a job under a coach who could retire at any time (especially after Coach was diagnosed with cancer).
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Post by katlander » April 7th, 2023, 9:41 am

I really like how Klieman gets so many guys involved and on the field early and often. The roster is full of capable guys and their knowing they will play makes them more invested in the program. Less likely to leave and fosters great team unity, which leads to chemistry. Working hard and continually riding the pine is BS. It is tantamount to being shown the door.
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Post by NatCat2 » April 7th, 2023, 10:09 am

We’ll stated Kat. I’ve been impressed with that strategy from the beginning. Creates depth. Plus it has to be easier to recruit when you can tell somebody that you may see the field next year and they know it’s not BS because they can look at the games and see young guys playing.

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Post by Catalum » April 7th, 2023, 10:11 am

tmcats wrote:
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The depth is getting increasingly impressive. The reload approach is alive and well.

We are getting to the point where our 2 & 3 deep guys could win quite a few games if we lost all of our starters.
one difference between snyder teams and what klieman's building is depth. i remember collin's undefeated outfit going to baylor after zimmerman went down, maybe some others, and they got shredded. my sense is that hcck is building beyond his starters, something that always plagued bill's best later in the season with injuries.
So true regarding depth (CK vs BS). I think what made those late 90's teams so successful was they had relatively few injuries to the first unit. The first string on both sides of the ball had tremendous talent, but there was a HUGE drop of after that.
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Post by spot2180 » April 7th, 2023, 10:55 am

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We’ll stated Kat. I’ve been impressed with that strategy from the beginning. Creates depth. Plus it has to be easier to recruit when you can tell somebody that you may see the field next year and they know it’s not BS because they can look at the games and see young guys playing.
And, in my mind, that strategy helps KEEP athletes at KSU. In today's college football, if a kid never sees the field when he is capable, he may leave to another school, causing the coaching staff more headaches to find other athletes and dwindles the depth chart.
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Post by ksume2000 » April 8th, 2023, 7:03 pm

tmcats wrote:
April 6th, 2023, 7:26 pm
katlander wrote:
April 6th, 2023, 5:16 pm
The depth is getting increasingly impressive. The reload approach is alive and well.

We are getting to the point where our 2 & 3 deep guys could win quite a few games if we lost all of our starters.
one difference between snyder teams and what klieman's building is depth. i remember collin's undefeated outfit going to baylor after zimmerman went down, maybe some others, and they got shredded. my sense is that hcck is building beyond his starters, something that always plagued bill's best later in the season with injuries.
And it seems that a lot of posters on this board are afraid to get good depth because someone might transfer for more playing time. I never understood that fear. Alabama and Texas don't get nervous about having TOO MANY good players.

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Post by tmcats » April 8th, 2023, 7:10 pm

ksume2000 wrote:
April 8th, 2023, 7:03 pm
tmcats wrote:
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one difference between snyder teams and what klieman's building is depth. i remember collin's undefeated outfit going to baylor after zimmerman went down, maybe some others, and they got shredded. my sense is that hcck is building beyond his starters, something that always plagued bill's best later in the season with injuries.
And it seems that a lot of posters on this board are afraid to get good depth because someone might transfer for more playing time. I never understood that fear. Alabama and Texas don't get nervous about having TOO MANY good players.
like tang's goals of a national championship parade, klieman's program is still new and requires some adjustment by k-state fans who naturally tend towards linus.
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Post by katlander » April 8th, 2023, 7:35 pm

Maybe our history has had a little too much of this to feel we are deserving ;-)

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Post by wild@nite » April 9th, 2023, 2:38 am

ksume2000 wrote:
April 8th, 2023, 7:03 pm
tmcats wrote:
April 6th, 2023, 7:26 pm


one difference between snyder teams and what klieman's building is depth. i remember collin's undefeated outfit going to baylor after zimmerman went down, maybe some others, and they got shredded. my sense is that hcck is building beyond his starters, something that always plagued bill's best later in the season with injuries.
And it seems that a lot of posters on this board are afraid to get good depth because someone might transfer for more playing time. I never understood that fear. Alabama and Texas don't get nervous about having TOO MANY good players.
Agreed, but the one glitch is we aren't Alabama or Texas in terms of depth. Our bowl game and the TCU bowl game made that perfectly clear to me as much as i hate to acknowledge it. Our chances for a natty are far greater in bball than football. We blew our shot in 98 and 2012.

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Post by tmcats » April 9th, 2023, 9:31 am

wild@nite wrote:
April 9th, 2023, 2:38 am
ksume2000 wrote:
April 8th, 2023, 7:03 pm


And it seems that a lot of posters on this board are afraid to get good depth because someone might transfer for more playing time. I never understood that fear. Alabama and Texas don't get nervous about having TOO MANY good players.
Agreed, but the one glitch is we aren't Alabama or Texas in terms of depth. Our bowl game and the TCU bowl game made that perfectly clear to me as much as i hate to acknowledge it. Our chances for a natty are far greater in bball than football. We blew our shot in 98 and 2012.
'98 particularly, wild. still remember walking out of that dome with my head down and nebraska fan yelling: k-state still sucks. :|
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