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Post by wild@nite » November 26th, 2021, 2:56 pm

X 10. He is an embarrassment.
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Post by wild@nite » November 26th, 2021, 3:06 pm

I'm following up on my own post. Messingham and Klieman owe their players a huge apology. Then fire tge bum. He sucks!
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Post by PNW Cat » November 26th, 2021, 3:11 pm

I agree 100%. The players, University, and fans deserve a qualified OC. This isn't a BFF club, where you just get to hire your best friends and allow them to continue getting paychecks when this is the results he produces. Looking at Kellis Robinett's twitter feed, it looks like he's having the same exact thoughts. He's commented on both of the horrible 4th downs where we lined up in shotgun. I hope he makes them answer for this.
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Post by ChemicalKat » November 26th, 2021, 3:13 pm

If a game like this means we don’t have to move forward with Messingham then I consider that a victory.
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Post by KsJoey » November 26th, 2021, 3:16 pm

ChemicalKat wrote:
November 26th, 2021, 3:13 pm
If a game like this means we don’t have to move forward with Messingham then I consider that a victory.
In a similar way… with Howard. Should be pretty clear that he isn’t a quality QB and at the very least, needs recruited over.
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Post by wild@nite » November 26th, 2021, 3:24 pm

PNW Cat wrote:
November 26th, 2021, 3:11 pm
I agree 100%. The players, University, and fans deserve a qualified OC. This isn't a BFF club, where you just get to hire your best friends and allow them to continue getting paychecks when this is the results he produces. Looking at Kellis Robinett's twitter feed, it looks like he's having the same exact thoughts. He's commented on both of the horrible 4th downs where we lined up in shotgun. I hope he makes them answer for this.
Yep. That was the deal breaker for me. He owes those players a huge apology. He screwed the team.

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Post by kdkaire325 » November 26th, 2021, 3:39 pm

Mess needs to go!..Sorry to say Klein needs to go as well! Our QB development is shit!
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Post by Tbonespop » November 26th, 2021, 4:12 pm

How any HC can look at this game and not come to the realization that terminations need to take place is beyond me. It's the HC's job to assemble a capable staff to get wins. Messingham has no business being an OC. Best friends or not, its pathetically bad.

CK needs to realize that his inability to make difficult decisions because of his long time personal friend being the OC, its going to cost him his job as well as his buddy the AD. Its amazing how one person could negatively impact so much within a program.
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Post by PNW Cat » November 26th, 2021, 4:16 pm

I hope this fire within the fanbase doesn't die out. We need to make sure Gene and Chris know that this isn't ok. We can't let Gene start spewing sunshine and rainbows about this team to justify not making any major changes. If we allow that we'll continue to be mediocre at best, and we need to strive for more. I mean we at least need to try something different when what we've been doing for the last 3 years does't work.

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Post by KSalum1201 » November 26th, 2021, 4:27 pm

KsJoey wrote:
November 26th, 2021, 3:16 pm
ChemicalKat wrote:
November 26th, 2021, 3:13 pm
If a game like this means we don’t have to move forward with Messingham then I consider that a victory.
In a similar way… with Howard. Should be pretty clear that he isn’t a quality QB and at the very least, needs recruited over.
I think Howard has potential with a competent OC and a competent QB coach. It does not appear that we have either.

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