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Re: Shut it down

Post by MajorAppleCat » March 27th, 2020, 12:29 am

ChemicalKat wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:23 pm
Exponential growth. 1 month to 100,000, 2 weeks to 200,000. 4 days to 300,000. 2 days to 400,000. Ultimately, when this is all said and done, the total number infected will be closer to 100m than 1m.

And you all will look like idiots for not taking this seriously. If the president had shut down the country 2 weeks ago when I said, we’d be just about done with this thing. Now it will last to Memorial Day and we’ll STILL have to shut down.
How ironic that the same individuals/party worrying about infection rate, whether there is enough medical equipment and critical care beds, are the same individuals/party who have no problem with open borders, unlimited immigration despite the limited resources of our health care system.

Trump was right.
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Post by KITNooga » March 27th, 2020, 5:44 am

MajorAppleCat wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 12:29 am
ChemicalKat wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:23 pm
Exponential growth. 1 month to 100,000, 2 weeks to 200,000. 4 days to 300,000. 2 days to 400,000. Ultimately, when this is all said and done, the total number infected will be closer to 100m than 1m.

And you all will look like idiots for not taking this seriously. If the president had shut down the country 2 weeks ago when I said, we’d be just about done with this thing. Now it will last to Memorial Day and we’ll STILL have to shut down.
How ironic that the same individuals/party worrying about infection rate, whether there is enough medical equipment and critical care beds, are the same individuals/party who have no problem with open borders, unlimited immigration despite the limited resources of our health care system.

Trump was right.
sorta puts a little different spin on 'you all will look like idiots'...

:rofl:

and I notice: not to many of our left leaning friends seem a bit concerned over the homeless ...
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Post by ChemicalKat » March 27th, 2020, 6:05 am

MajorAppleCat wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 12:29 am
ChemicalKat wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:23 pm
Exponential growth. 1 month to 100,000, 2 weeks to 200,000. 4 days to 300,000. 2 days to 400,000. Ultimately, when this is all said and done, the total number infected will be closer to 100m than 1m.

And you all will look like idiots for not taking this seriously. If the president had shut down the country 2 weeks ago when I said, we’d be just about done with this thing. Now it will last to Memorial Day and we’ll STILL have to shut down.
How ironic that the same individuals/party worrying about infection rate, whether there is enough medical equipment and critical care beds, are the same individuals/party who have no problem with open borders, unlimited immigration despite the limited resources of our health care system.

Trump was right.
Closing the borders does nothing at this point and would have done nothing 2 months ago because it was American citizens who brought the disease back.

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Post by ChemicalKat » March 27th, 2020, 6:06 am

Ksuminnesotacat wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:55 pm
ChemicalKat wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:47 pm


Start counting the hospitalizations on that website I sent you. We crossed 10,000 today. Up from 1,000 at the beginning of the week.
Ride the wave and keep your shit wired tight! 6800 in New York they have plenty of infrastructure right now, let’s see where the chloroquine treatment goes as far as speeding up recovery rates. Not good but not burn it all down either.
No, there are hospitals in New York that are on the brink.

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Post by ChemicalKat » March 27th, 2020, 6:08 am

Number8son wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 10:46 pm
ChemicalKat wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:23 pm
Exponential growth. 1 month to 100,000, 2 weeks to 200,000. 4 days to 300,000. 2 days to 400,000. Ultimately, when this is all said and done, the total number infected will be closer to 100m than 1m.

And you all will look like idiots for not taking this seriously. If the president had shut down the country 2 weeks ago when I said, we’d be just about done with this thing. Now it will last to Memorial Day and we’ll STILL have to shut down.
Please tell us all who should stop working and be shut down who is still working? After all you know who is essential and nonessential. And since there is no vaccine or cure, when do you want to open it up? Next May. Of course, you are working at home so it is fine for you, right? :rofl:
Sounds like the job of the president to supply that information.

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Post by xtrawildcat » March 27th, 2020, 6:36 am

A couple weeks ago I was critical that the travel lock down from Europe did not include UK and Ireland. Today, we have Prince Charles and now Boris Johnson infected.
The govt did shut down travel from the rest of Europe including the UK four or five days after the initial travel ban of parts of Europe. However,not locking down travel from all of Europe to start with and not doing it earlier was a major screw up and surely brought additional people with the virus to the US.

Hot spots now in Boston, Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans



We had a month and a half head start on keeping this virus tamped down in the US. Overall, this has been a total failure by a lot of people. A whole lot of too little too late.
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Post by spot2180 » March 27th, 2020, 6:45 am

ChemicalKat wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 6:05 am
MajorAppleCat wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 12:29 am


How ironic that the same individuals/party worrying about infection rate, whether there is enough medical equipment and critical care beds, are the same individuals/party who have no problem with open borders, unlimited immigration despite the limited resources of our health care system.

Trump was right.
Closing the borders does nothing at this point and would have done nothing 2 months ago because it was American citizens who brought the disease back.
Is Europe on the hook for that? Those in China couldn't fly directly to the States, but they could fly to Europe. How much of this would have been better contained if Europe would have banned flights from China?

It begs the question: Do you label preventative measures, such as flight bans, 'racist' for an even more dangerous virus? Will Europe be open to the next virus like it was to this one? Europe and its prevailing politics brought it on themselves, but I doubt they'll do it again. Had a leftie been in office here in the US and didn't want to seem racist, we'd have what happened in Italy and what is happening in Spain right now. At what point does the left stop playing stupid politics when something more serious hits us?
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." ~ Aldous Huxley
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Post by ChemicalKat » March 27th, 2020, 7:12 am

spot2180 wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 6:45 am
ChemicalKat wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 6:05 am


Closing the borders does nothing at this point and would have done nothing 2 months ago because it was American citizens who brought the disease back.
Is Europe on the hook for that? Those in China couldn't fly directly to the States, but they could fly to Europe. How much of this would have been better contained if Europe would have banned flights from China?

It begs the question: Do you label preventative measures, such as flight bans, 'racist' for an even more dangerous virus? Will Europe be open to the next virus like it was to this one? Europe and its prevailing politics brought it on themselves, but I doubt they'll do it again. Had a leftie been in office here in the US and didn't want to seem racist, we'd have what happened in Italy and what is happening in Spain right now. At what point does the left stop playing stupid politics when something more serious hits us?
News flash: the US is the epicenter of Covid 19. Not Europe.

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Post by spot2180 » March 27th, 2020, 7:27 am

Explain that.
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Post by ChemicalKat » March 27th, 2020, 7:54 am

spot2180 wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 7:27 am
Explain that.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

US: 85,000 cases
China: 81,000 cases
Italy: 80,000 cases

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