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Post by MajorAppleCat » October 12th, 2019, 2:06 pm

Love to see how those blasting Trump, are now siding with Lindsey Graham. How ironic.
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Post by xtrawildcat » October 12th, 2019, 5:56 pm

MajorAppleCat wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 2:06 pm
Love to see how those blasting Trump, are now siding with Lindsey Graham. How ironic.
On this issue, those are pretty much everybody in the US except a few that are still making excuses for a bad Trump decision. Even if you agree with his end goal of getting out of the middle east as most of us do, the way he is doing it is going to result in consequences that will take the next chief executive to resolve.

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Post by MajorAppleCat » October 12th, 2019, 11:29 pm

Frankly history will ultimately tell whether the decision is the correct one.

The Kurds obviously thought it was in their best interests to fight along with the United States against ISIS. Maybe because they do not like extremist Muslims anymore than anyone else. However, the Kurds and the Turks have been enemies for a long time. Is it now the objective of the U.S. to protect the Kurds against a NATO member simply because they had the same objective that the United States had in ridding the region of ISIS? I have no love for the Turks, but if it is now the objective of the U.S. to protect the Kurds then there ought to be a bi-partisan resolution stating as such.
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Post by katlander » Yesterday, 8:11 am

All those wonderful socialist bastions of Europe can carry the load for a while. They are such superior creatures. Bet they won't.

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Post by xtrawildcat » Yesterday, 9:37 am

U.S. military officers who fought in Syria say they are devastated and ashamed by Trump’s decision to abandon Kurdish-led forces.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/10/ku ... ald-trump/

Current and retired U.S. military officers interviewed by Foreign Policy about their direct experience with the SDF, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss sensitive operations, described a group of passionate, fearless fighters, both male and female, who share American values and remain loyal partners even after repeated disappointments. The people interviewed held up the Kurdish fighters as a model of a successful partnership in a tumultuous region, with one retired military officer saying the group was one of the few indigenous units the United States has worked with since 9/11 that have earned its trust.

“Both their competence in battle and their commitment to the mission have been proven over and over,” the retired officer said.

All the people interviewed unanimously said they were devastated by the news that the United States is standing aside to let the Turks massacre the Kurdish troops, and more than one expressed a deep sense of shame.

“I feel physically ill with worry and concern and deeply ashamed that my own country would permit this fate to befall our close allies who did all our fighting for us, when we had the power to prevent it,” said a U.S. Marine who served in Syria in 2017-2018.


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Post by xtrawildcat » Yesterday, 6:02 pm

https://www.apnews.com/7e90fd08a89e49d9bcae6a85a131a64a

Syria’s Kurds look to Assad for protection after US pullout

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