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Re: earlier we discussed college being easier ...

Post by MajorAppleCat » August 15th, 2019, 4:49 pm

ChemicalKat wrote:
August 15th, 2019, 2:28 pm
MajorAppleCat wrote:
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College education is becoming obsolete. The access to information has never been greater than what it is today.
I think the movie Good Will Hunting comes to mind where Will is taking to that guy from Harvard and says “you could have gotten the same education with $1.84 in late charges at the public library.” But then the guy says “ya but you’ll be serving fries to my kids on the way to a skiing trip.”

You can effectively get an entire Harvard education on YouTube but the Harvard diploma itself is worth about an extra $100,000 a year for life. Statistically, college educated make significantly more than non college educated. And having that piece of paper matters.
We now have a lot of college educated fools that do not know how to fix a flat, can food, build a home, raise animals or crops, etc. They spend their time teaching non-productive liberal ideologies. Reminds me of a summer ago when I was speaking with a father and son about growing potatoes. They did not know where potatoes came from or how they were planted.

Education is fine if you want to be in a higher profession, doctor, lawyer, engineer, scientist, etc., otherwise it is a waste of time. Right now, a lot of the younger generation lack practical knowledge of how to actually do things.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » August 15th, 2019, 5:05 pm

You're not wrong. I can disagree with the degree or extent to which you assert your claim, but I don't disagree with it.

You can lay it at the feet of "teaching non-productive liberal ideologies" if you want, but some of it really is simply the impact of technological and cultural shifts, as well as simple urban/rural demographics.

I don't think Chem is really saying something new or even controversial though, either. Anecdotal evidence aside, in much the same way that different degrees have different earning power/potential, degrees from different institutions can also have different earning power/potential.
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Post by Opensource » August 15th, 2019, 6:42 pm

MajorAppleCat wrote:
August 15th, 2019, 4:49 pm
ChemicalKat wrote:
August 15th, 2019, 2:28 pm


I think the movie Good Will Hunting comes to mind where Will is taking to that guy from Harvard and says “you could have gotten the same education with $1.84 in late charges at the public library.” But then the guy says “ya but you’ll be serving fries to my kids on the way to a skiing trip.”

You can effectively get an entire Harvard education on YouTube but the Harvard diploma itself is worth about an extra $100,000 a year for life. Statistically, college educated make significantly more than non college educated. And having that piece of paper matters.
We now have a lot of college educated fools that do not know how to fix a flat, can food, build a home, raise animals or crops, etc. They spend their time teaching non-productive liberal ideologies. Reminds me of a summer ago when I was speaking with a father and son about growing potatoes. They did not know where potatoes came from or how they were planted.

Education is fine if you want to be in a higher profession, doctor, lawyer, engineer, scientist, etc., otherwise it is a waste of time. Right now, a lot of the younger generation lack practical knowledge of how to actually do things.
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Post by tmcats » August 15th, 2019, 6:45 pm

the youngsters i taught in k-state's business school were no different than the kids i studied with in the late-60's. for the most part, they all were connected, smart and hopeful for their futures. i do think there's a difference between youngsters and expectations for history degrees to those in, say, physics or engineering.
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