For Tang, NIL is a two way deal

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For Tang, NIL is a two way deal

Post by SCKSCat » September 24th, 2024, 11:51 am

In Tang’s recent preseason presser, Tang thanked boosters for putting up substantial money for NIL so talented players can be given substantial NIL deals. He went on to say he expects players to live up to their end of the deal and give much of themselves.

Makes me wonder if these big $$ NIL deals have performance criteria or incentives to hold a player's feet to the fire. I sure would try not to pay a NIL deal if a player goes loafer, drug addict, or criminal.
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Post by SCKSCat » September 24th, 2024, 12:11 pm

https://www.athleticbusiness.com/operat ... -nil-deals

"The policy also forbids NIL compensation tied to “specific athletic performance or achievement,” such as “financial incentives based on points scored.” While the policy acknowledges that “athlete performance may enhance” an athlete’s “NIL value”, such performance can’t be used as “consideration” for “athlete NIL competition. Therefore, college athlete endorsement deals won’t contain incentive clauses tied to touchdown passes or points per game, etc."

So what leverage does a coach have to stimulate a player to perform?
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Post by wild@nite » September 24th, 2024, 1:24 pm

Less leverage than before, imo. Anytime big donor $ is involved, you better believe there is going to be some conflicts. I can think of several specific ways a coach's leverage could be compromised. I hope it doesn't happen here, but, it will somewhere.
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Post by bigdeal » September 25th, 2024, 2:11 pm

That same article also says NIL can't be tied to an athlete enrolling at a particular school or being pay for play and we see how that has worked out.

As reported by Yahoo!Sports, the policy appears more rigid in regard to “prohibitions related to pay for play, impermissible offers and inducements or extra benefits.” It notes that NIL can’t disguise pay-for-play, such as NIL compensation being contingent on a recruit enrolling at a particular school. A violating school would breach their NCAA membership contract and face repercussions.
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Post by katlander » September 30th, 2024, 7:54 am

This is a bunch of BS, as is NIL. We are transitioning college amateur athletics to professional sports. NIL is merely a facade for dummies.

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Post by tmcats » September 30th, 2024, 10:18 am

katlander wrote:
September 30th, 2024, 7:54 am
This is a bunch of BS, as is NIL. We are transitioning college amateur athletics to professional sports. NIL is merely a facade for dummies.
transitioning? we just paid coleman $2 million to play here. if we are in transition, i'd like to know to where? :|
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Post by KSUbetcha » September 30th, 2024, 9:01 pm

For football & men's basketball players NIL is free agency, since there's currently no Congressional or NCAA oversight or regulations covering this activity.
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Post by katlander » October 1st, 2024, 9:10 am

tmcats wrote:
September 30th, 2024, 10:18 am
katlander wrote:
September 30th, 2024, 7:54 am
This is a bunch of BS, as is NIL. We are transitioning college amateur athletics to professional sports. NIL is merely a facade for dummies.
transitioning? we just paid coleman $2 million to play here. if we are in transition, i'd like to know to where? :|
Exactly, yet we still pretend it is something else. Just set per team salary caps and end the facade.
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Post by SCKSCat » October 1st, 2024, 1:29 pm

katlander wrote:
October 1st, 2024, 9:10 am
tmcats wrote:
September 30th, 2024, 10:18 am


transitioning? we just paid coleman $2 million to play here. if we are in transition, i'd like to know to where? :|
Exactly, yet we still pretend it is something else. Just set per team salary caps and end the facade.
It appears that the House vs NCAA settlement provisions are going to make Colleges make direct payments to players and the payments will be relatively equal within a team. I have read they are trying to pass a bunch of rules to put the screws to NIL, especially deals from a group of boosters.

These rules sound good on the surface FOR NIL, but will schools like K State be able to compete with the cheaters. At least we can now. My fear is cheaters like Self will go right back to their old ways.

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Post by wild@nite » October 1st, 2024, 3:21 pm

katlander wrote:
September 30th, 2024, 7:54 am
This is a bunch of BS, as is NIL. We are transitioning college amateur athletics to professional sports. NIL is merely a facade for dummies.
It's actually worse than professional sports. They have contracts, salary caps, and roster limits. This whole mess is quite a shitshow compared to pros.
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