Number8son wrote: ↑November 12th, 2019, 11:55 pmRather than cats why don't we just use "puppies". That would be very intimidating, too. Football is just for fun, that's why we pay coaches 3 to 8 million dollars. The ultimate reason I don't like it is because the slightest difference/hesitation of not recognizing a teammate quickly on pass plays, etc. can have a profound effect on a game...i.e. like a turnover, etc.AJcat7755 wrote: ↑November 12th, 2019, 3:17 pmSeems helmets logos have gone in waves. Early on it was the lettering (KSU, KU, etc.) then came the spelling out words. Then teams came up with their own logos (powercat, ASU pitchfork, etc) and now it's about flash or retro designs. There are some teams that have kept tradition throughout, but many teams have changed it up.
Florida, Cal, UCLA (although this is their schools lettering), Ole Miss, South Carolina, Duke, Pitt, Fresno State, Nevada, Louisiana-Lafayette, South Alabama, Ohio, Southern Miss, Tulsa all use some form of text on their helmets right now.
All of the Big 10 West uses a single letter, but Iowa, which is pretty boring to watch N, N, M, P, W, I battle it out. (R and I in the East division as well)
Northwestern had a very similar Cats helmet in the 80s, although it was purple on white helmet, like the latest KSU one.
Of all the Big 12 schools, only UT and OU have had less helmet designs in their history then KSU, so it's not like they are going crazy with it over the years. The Cats helmet is the last used helmet since the PowerCat (and it's few tweaks). Since 1989, there have only been been the traditional PowerCat, a Powercat with camo on the emblem (one game 2013) which was really hard to tell, white helmet with purple PowerCat and camo in the white area (Fort Riley games in 2016 and 2017) and the white one that came out this year that was used against Baylor.
So 4 games, since 1989 (31 years), a different tweak on the helmet has been used. That is 4 out of 93 games played has a tweak on the PowerCat helmet been used. And everyone is freaking out that this will be the first time in 93 games/31 years that something other then a tweaked PowerCat is being used? After the end of this year, that will be 1.04% of the time in the last 31 years a helmet, without a PowerCat on it, will be used. It's not changing permanently, it's not outlandish chrome, or a weird logo like some schools have used recently, it's a retro helmet for fun. Overblown on both sides of the opinion for a change for 1 game in 31 years.
1. Cats was used in the past, hence it's a retro throwback. They aren't exactly creating a new helmet with a new logo or saying for an alternative like schools have done. See some of Oregon State's ugly helmets.
2. "Bring on the Cats", "Let's go Cats" or other sayings with Cats used in it. Cats was also used in the past on Northwestern and Kentucky's helmets, so it's not uncommon. "Cats" was also used on the helmets right above the facemask in helmets this year in a very small text.
3. Teams wear a different home and away jersey and do just fine. In the pro-bowl, everyone wears different helmets. Teams all over the nation wear different helmets every game. Studies show, that for recognition on the field, it's the variation in the jersey color, compared to that of the opponent, that has the biggest impact (dark/colored vs the light/white). QBs aren't looking at pants, shoes, or helmets, they are looking at the largest piece of the equipment, which is the jersey. Which is why KU fans were complaining about their jerseys being so close to KSU, as an excuse as to why Stanley threw to the wrong team (I think he just sucks).
4. Cat is actually a full grown animal. So the analogy to "puppies" does not apply. Instead, you should have said "dogs". Even then, everyone knows we aren't talking about domesticated "cats" here, so we wouldn't be talking about domesticated "dogs". Instead, it would be more closely related to the wild version of a dog, which would be "wolves"
5. Trevor Strange, a current player is going to get to wear the same helmet (although color swapped) as his dad Russ Strange did when he played for KSU. Regardless of what you think of the helmets, that is still a pretty interesting story line. https://twitter.com/RussStange/photo
I don't get why all the noise on either side of the argument about a helmet that will be used once in 31 years. I wonder what people would have done back in 1989 when the PowerCat came out if the same situation happened today. That was a logo change across the whole university, and this is just 1 single game. Merchandise is selling out everywhere ($$), players and recruits are buzzing about it (recruiting), it's getting a lot of recognition in the media (publicity). In the end, that is what is important. For those that don't like it, you need to understand it's 1 game, and the positives it brings outweigh that 1 game of having to see it used. For those that love it, it's still only 1 game, so don't get too much in love with it, but buy up the merchandise that feeds $$ back to the school.
Via twitter:
@KellisRobinett
Some don't like Kansas State's throwback logo, but fans bought $50,000 worth of "Cats" merchandise the day it went on sale.
In the end, it will be a side note that everyone will forget happened as long as the team wins with them on.
