Message from General Flynn

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Re: Message from General Flynn

Post by Zoltar » June 30th, 2020, 1:12 pm

Just shows that if you are one of 'all the King's men' you can get away with anything.
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Post by tmcats » June 30th, 2020, 1:21 pm

Zoltar wrote:
June 30th, 2020, 1:12 pm
Just shows that if you are one of 'all the King's men' you can get away with anything.
no, that would be allowing americans to die needlessly in an embassy. that would not be saying: i didn't talk to the russians about something immaterial to anything.
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Post by RichardZ » June 30th, 2020, 9:34 pm

Puzzling to me why the hate for Gen. Flynn.

By now it is obvious he was set up and lied to by the FBI. Lawyers previous to Sydney Powell charged him almost $7 million dollars for a defense in which they advised him to cop a deal and go to jail. His family was threatened with ruin.

It's hard enough to do battle with the feds. Doubly hard when they scheme to get ya.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » July 1st, 2020, 12:46 am

They asked to talk to him in his office. At any time he could have refused. He lied because he's either not terribly smart or he's stubbornly obstinate.

He got a special break and didn't face the justice that all other Americans would have because he's one of Mr. Trump's compatriots.

That said, I don't hate him, he's just a disgraced tool catching special breaks from a corrupt DoJ.
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Post by RichardZ » July 1st, 2020, 10:21 am

Oh, yeah they did ask to talk to him in his office. You are right there. What you failed to mention....

Newly released FBI documents turned over to former national security adviser Michael Flynn show agents openly questioned if their “goal” was to “get him to lie,” so they could “prosecute him or get him fired,” when questioning him about Russian contacts.

The documents, provided by the Justice Department as part of a re-examination of Flynn’s case, include a single page of handwritten notes.

While the notes are not listed with an author, they are believed to have been written by former FBI counterintelligence director Bill Priestap. The notes were taken in January 2017, following a meeting with former FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, according to Fox News.

Priestap’s handwritten remarks were taken down on the heels of a critical interview with the newly installed national security adviser regarding Flynn’s contacts weeks earlier with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

“What’s our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?” Priestap wrote. “If we get him to admit to breaking the Logan Act, give facts to DOJ & have them decide. Or, if he initially lies, then we present him [redacted] & he admits it, document for DOJ, & let them decide how to address it.”

Priestap went on to note that his work must “protect our institution by not playing games,” also saying that “If we are seen as playing games, [the White House] will be furious.”

In a 2018 public appearance, Comey admitted his decision to send FBI agents for the interview in question with Gen. Flynn was not standard practice. Speaking to MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace in a forum discussion, Comey said the interview was “something I probably wouldn’t have done or maybe gotten away with in a more … organized administration.”

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He explained, “If the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel, and there would be discussions and approvals of who would be there.”

However, the former FBI director and outspoken critic of President Trump decided to bypass protocol in this instance, saying, “I thought, ‘It’s early enough, let’s just send a couple guys over.’”

Flynn pleaded guilty in late 2017 to lying to the FBI about conversations he had with Kislyak. However, his lawyers now say they believe this document supports their case to reverse his plea, citing investigative misconduct.

Sidney Powell, Flynn’s attorney, said in a Fox News appearance Wednesday night of the documents, “It’s just absolutely appalling what these agents, and then special counsel operatives, did to General Flynn. It’s abuse of their authority at every turn.”

Trump appears to agree, saying in a Thursday morning tweet, “What happened to General Michael Flynn, a war hero, should never be allowed to happen to a citizen of the United States again!”

Your mention of a "Special Break" doesnt seem so special to me. Not after being run thru the mill costing him $7M and the stress and horror that came with destroying a good man's reputation for the SAKE OF POLITICS.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » July 1st, 2020, 10:24 am

and at any point he could have chosen to not lie to federal agents or simply not answer their questions at all

anyone who wasn't a Trump compatriot wouldn't have received the special breaks that he did for the SAKE OF POLITICS, that's the definition of corruption
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Post by tmcats » July 1st, 2020, 11:48 am

WIldWIllieCat wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 10:24 am
and at any point he could have chosen to not lie to federal agents or simply not answer their questions at all

anyone who wasn't a Trump compatriot wouldn't have received the special breaks that he did for the SAKE OF POLITICS, that's the definition of corruption
no one has denied he lied, correct. these lies were not material to anything dealing with russian collusion, correct. no one has denied he was set up by the fbi to escalate the russian collusion hoax, correct. as a result, key members of the fbi team were fired, correct. the doj dropped charges, yes. and the court agreed, yes. end of story.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » July 1st, 2020, 1:04 pm

3 out of 7 statements are likely correct
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Post by RichardZ » July 1st, 2020, 7:55 pm

"likely correct" according to who? You?

You sound just like Joey...... "Truth not facts"
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Post by NealyFan » July 2nd, 2020, 12:10 pm

A guilty man took a guilty plea
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