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Re: Venice flooding

Post by spot2180 » November 14th, 2019, 8:15 am

WIldWIllieCat wrote:
November 13th, 2019, 11:43 pm
Go back to the original post and the ascribing of a position/opinion to a mysterious "they", and the resulting implication that "they" cannot scientifically discern the difference between sinking land and rising seas.

Now that you've done that, tell me what is the actual accusation being made and against whom?
The "mysterious they" is the unelected bureaucracy-in-waiting created by the Paris accords to decide where the delayed American taxpayer money to give the city of Venice that is sinking but willing to use junk science to make people think that global warming is the cause. Wanna bet that a city on the coast near Venice, let's say 20 miles away in the same flood plain, is not experiencing flooding?
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » November 14th, 2019, 3:07 pm

Ahhh...so it's a conspiracy, got it.

Little research into why you were implying people can't discern the difference from sinking land and rising waters, and I discovered it's actually about the tides. "The water reached 1.87 meters (6.14 feet) above average sea level Tuesday, the second-highest level ever recorded in the city." - AP
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Post by spot2180 » November 14th, 2019, 3:17 pm

WIldWIllieCat wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 3:07 pm
Ahhh...so it's a conspiracy, got it.

Little research into why you were implying people can't discern the difference from sinking land and rising waters, and I discovered it's actually about the tides. "The water reached 1.87 meters (6.14 feet) above average sea level Tuesday, the second-highest level ever recorded in the city." - AP
You believe in conspiracies. You've been hoping for quid pro quo for a while now. It isn't there, but boy do you believe it is.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » November 14th, 2019, 5:40 pm

Sorry. I live in the really-real world. I'll take the president at his word.
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Post by learnin » November 14th, 2019, 5:51 pm

spot2180 wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 3:17 pm
WIldWIllieCat wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 3:07 pm
Ahhh...so it's a conspiracy, got it.

Little research into why you were implying people can't discern the difference from sinking land and rising waters, and I discovered it's actually about the tides. "The water reached 1.87 meters (6.14 feet) above average sea level Tuesday, the second-highest level ever recorded in the city." - AP
You believe in conspiracies. You've been hoping for quid pro quo for a while now. It isn't there, but boy do you believe it is.
Please. Trump's been using money to get his way all his life. What is paying off a porn star if it's not a, "something given, or received, for something else"? Yes, he used tax payer money to pressure Ukraine to investigate a political rival. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. How do we know it? They tried to hide it. They've tried to reveal the name of the Whistle Blower. Who gives a flip who blew the whistle on that phone call?
We have evidence of the phone call and much of what was said so that will either convict or exonerate. It doesn't matter who blew the whistle.

Officer: "You're under arrest for beating your wife."

Me: "I didn't beat my wife, where'd you come up with this?"

Officer: "Someone turned over a video."

Me: "Who was the one who turned over this video. I demand to know who turned this over!"

Officer to himself: "Yea, guilty as hell."

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Post by spot2180 » November 14th, 2019, 8:14 pm

WIldWIllieCat wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 5:40 pm
Sorry. I live in the really-real world. I'll take the president at his word.
I don't think you do. Sorry.
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Post by spot2180 » November 14th, 2019, 8:17 pm

learnin wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 5:51 pm
spot2180 wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 3:17 pm


You believe in conspiracies. You've been hoping for quid pro quo for a while now. It isn't there, but boy do you believe it is.
Please. Trump's been using money to get his way all his life. What is paying off a porn star if it's not a, "something given, or received, for something else"? Yes, he used tax payer money to pressure Ukraine to investigate a political rival. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. How do we know it? They tried to hide it. They've tried to reveal the name of the Whistle Blower. Who gives a flip who blew the whistle on that phone call?
We have evidence of the phone call and much of what was said so that will either convict or exonerate. It doesn't matter who blew the whistle.

Officer: "You're under arrest for beating your wife."

Me: "I didn't beat my wife, where'd you come up with this?"

Officer: "Someone turned over a video."

Me: "Who was the one who turned over this video. I demand to know who turned this over!"

Officer to himself: "Yea, guilty as hell."
You have zero evidence of an impeachable offense. This impeachment inquiry is also a tax payer funded investigation into a political opponent, and it is falling flat on its face. Two elections in a row where tax payer money went into bullsh8t investigations all caused by democrats. Ignoring that means your indignation is completely hollow.
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Post by KITNooga » November 14th, 2019, 10:07 pm

learnin wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 5:51 pm
spot2180 wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 3:17 pm


You believe in conspiracies. You've been hoping for quid pro quo for a while now. It isn't there, but boy do you believe it is.
Please. Trump's been using money to get his way all his life. What is paying off a porn star if it's not a, "something given, or received, for something else"? Yes, he used tax payer money to pressure Ukraine to investigate a political rival. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. How do we know it? They tried to hide it. They've tried to reveal the name of the Whistle Blower. Who gives a flip who blew the whistle on that phone call?
We have evidence of the phone call and much of what was said so that will either convict or exonerate. It doesn't matter who blew the whistle.

Officer: "You're under arrest for beating your wife."

Me: "I didn't beat my wife, where'd you come up with this?"

Officer: "Someone turned over a video."

Me: "Who was the one who turned over this video. I demand to know who turned this over!"

Officer to himself: "Yea, guilty as hell."
haven't all you all on the left decried that as behavior of arrestacat? and yet, here you are...

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Post by KITNooga » November 14th, 2019, 10:11 pm

WIldWIllieCat wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 7:14 am
...and you would agree that discerning the difference between sinking land and rising sea level is scientifically rather simple, correct?
I guess you would know simple. on the other hand, if you read the piece, you might note that if it were so simple it would have happened long ago. but technology didn't support. back then. and mindset wouldn't have allowed.

quick, how many years have I been talking about subsidence?

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Post by katlander » November 15th, 2019, 12:07 am

WIldWIllieCat wrote:
November 14th, 2019, 3:07 pm
Ahhh...so it's a conspiracy, got it.

Little research into why you were implying people can't discern the difference from sinking land and rising waters, and I discovered it's actually about the tides. "The water reached 1.87 meters (6.14 feet) above average sea level Tuesday, the second-highest level ever recorded in the city." - AP
Yeah, that makes sense. Sea level is actually average sea level world wide. Sea level at a given coastline is largely dependent on ocean currents, wind direction and the tides. If I remember correctly the moon has a huge influence on the tides. So, basically the sea level at any one point on earth at any one point in time likely proves very little if anything.

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