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Re: We doesn't seem to apply to GOP, stupid infighting

Post by RichardZ » May 9th, 2021, 9:32 am

I thought Obama took a lot of arrows after he left office. But, the lefties have themselves twisted in mind and spirit over Trump.

Notice how the leftists have nothing positive to say about the current puppet in the Oval office? Just relying on made up hatred for Trump because their fweelings were hurt over his success and standing tall for America.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » May 9th, 2021, 10:09 am

KITNooga wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 6:41 am
WIldWIllieCat wrote:
May 8th, 2021, 10:24 am


we are talking about "today and tomorrow's government"
I don't know about 'we' willie... but it's awful damned tough to know what YOU are saying... at any particular post. seems almost no 'direct' in you.

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Wait.

You're having a hard time deciphering how purging the republican of any non Trump loyalists is relevant to "today and tomorrow's government"?

Listen, this isn't rocket-science. Liz is running the old playbook, which is tried and true - 'we lost our way and drifted from our fiscally conservative roots'.

It's clean. It's simple. It has consistently unified republican opposition in the past. Politically, it's low-risk high-reward.

On the other hand, doubling-down on Trump's Big Lie, is pretty high-risk by comparison. Why put rising stars in the republican party like Haley and DeSantis through a loyalty test?

To put it in practical terms, republicans don't need to deepen support they need to broaden it(and not by a lot mind you).
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Post by SCKSCat » May 9th, 2021, 12:30 pm

The way to unite is to unite against a common foe. I think the common foe is the radical left. I think defeating the radical left the most important thing.
Some Trump supporters think Trump is the most important thing. Why?
Reagan articulated the cause and principles he championed were greater than him. I sense no like mindset with Trump.
One pundit said this morning that Republicans are not conservatives anymore. Instead they are an identity based party devoid of policies and principles that serve as a rudder to use to get us through rough waters.
It is fine to change party leadership, but I don't get why some Republicans are hellbent on destroying party members who are perceived as Trump enemies. Knocking the undesirable runts in the head and killing them to statisfy revenge and to foster authoritarian purity is a stupid way to run a party.
This shows that Republicans don't want the President to be the President for all.

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Post by KITNooga » May 9th, 2021, 2:07 pm

take a look at the basketball board. you're either desperately wanting Bruce gone or a sunshine pumper. no middle ground.

and you think it should be different in politics?

the whole point should not be 'uniting against a common foe'... even though the radical left (and that includes most dems these days I submit: look at OAC, Schumer, Pelosi - not what they say - what they are doing) is and should be of high concern.

consider also how the left, the dems, once the group that was for free speech now is happy to actively work to suppress such (see their thoughts on twitter, facebook, etc).

some might think I'm a radical conservative right-winger. couldn't be farther from the truth, but they'll NEED to paint me as such anyway.


sure, Trump did a HORRIBLE job of messaging what he was about, what he was doing. He's been the most practical solutions leader we've had in forever. definitely my lifetime. and folks couldn't get over all of his rough edges.

so, now folks want to go back to 'the way it was'. the way it was not and IS NOT working?


and you all congratulate yourselves on being rational.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » May 9th, 2021, 2:13 pm

KITNooga wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 2:07 pm
take a look at the basketball board. you're either desperately wanting Bruce gone or a sunshine pumper. no middle ground.

and you think it should be different in politics?
no

in fact, that was entirely my point there and here....both are false choices

not for nuthin', but there are deep, deep fractures in the democratic party as well my friend....I've made my feelings regarding Bernie and his ilk pretty clear
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Post by xtrawildcat » May 10th, 2021, 8:35 am

SCKSCat wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 12:30 pm
The way to unite is to unite against a common foe. I think the common foe is the radical left. I think defeating the radical left the most important thing.
Some Trump supporters think Trump is the most important thing. Why?
Reagan articulated the cause and principles he championed were greater than him. I sense no like mindset with Trump.
One pundit said this morning that Republicans are not conservatives anymore. Instead they are an identity based party devoid of policies and principles that serve as a rudder to use to get us through rough waters.
It is fine to change party leadership, but I don't get why some Republicans are hellbent on destroying party members who are perceived as Trump enemies. Knocking the undesirable runts in the head and killing them to statisfy revenge and to foster authoritarian purity is a stupid way to run a party.
This shows that Republicans don't want the President to be the President for all.
Let me see if I understand all of this:
1. Radical left is nothing but democrats and centrists, Defeating them is the most important thing.

2. Trump spends a month lying about how the democrats stole the election from him in Georgia. This drove down voter turnout for two republican senate candidates. Dems win those two seats. Dems take control of the Senate due to Trumps help.

Trump lost the presidency.
Republicans lost both the House and the Senate under Trump.
Wonder when republicans will get tired of losing.

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Post by spot2180 » May 10th, 2021, 10:44 am

xtrawildcat wrote:
May 10th, 2021, 8:35 am
SCKSCat wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 12:30 pm
The way to unite is to unite against a common foe. I think the common foe is the radical left. I think defeating the radical left the most important thing.
Some Trump supporters think Trump is the most important thing. Why?
Reagan articulated the cause and principles he championed were greater than him. I sense no like mindset with Trump.
One pundit said this morning that Republicans are not conservatives anymore. Instead they are an identity based party devoid of policies and principles that serve as a rudder to use to get us through rough waters.
It is fine to change party leadership, but I don't get why some Republicans are hellbent on destroying party members who are perceived as Trump enemies. Knocking the undesirable runts in the head and killing them to statisfy revenge and to foster authoritarian purity is a stupid way to run a party.
This shows that Republicans don't want the President to be the President for all.
Let me see if I understand all of this:
1. Radical left is nothing but democrats and centrists, Defeating them is the most important thing.

2. Trump spends a month lying about how the democrats stole the election from him in Georgia. This drove down voter turnout for two republican senate candidates. Dems win those two seats. Dems take control of the Senate due to Trumps help.

Trump lost the presidency.
Republicans lost both the House and the Senate under Trump.
Wonder when republicans will get tired of losing.
1. Defeating the radical left is the most important thing right now. Very little of what Joe has 'proposed' is centrist. If you believe otherwise, you'd be hard pressed to explain it as 'centrist'. Who ever is whispering in Joe's ear and typing up the stuff on the teleprompter, that person or group of people is a leftist. And we all know what the hard left wants: socialism.

2. Hillary spent four years telling her big lie, xtra. Or are you suggesting that she had her election stolen from her and that Trump was an illegitimate president? Nearly the same words. Hillary gets a pass on her big lie, that was hammered home by the media and other lefty politicians, but not Trump. For many on the left, big lies are just fine, if they come from the right people.

I accept that Trump lost.
I accept that voter integrity laws are needed, pandemic or no pandemic. Fauci will do his best to pontificate without the support of science to keep that goal post moving, so measure to ensure a free and fair election need to be taken.
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Post by WIldWIllieCat » May 10th, 2021, 10:53 am

infrastructure investment is "centrist"
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Post by RichardZ » May 10th, 2021, 10:58 am

As Bill Clinton famously opined.."What is the meaning of is is?"

According to the left infrastructure IS every goofy, bloated request for whatever pops into their pea brains.
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Post by tmcats » May 10th, 2021, 10:59 am

infrastructure, as defined by this administration, is anything but centrist.

he ought to be focused on cyberattacks rather than aoc's agenda.
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