free speech

[katlander]

Looking back, taking prayer out of schools was part of the liberal plan to derail us. I was on board at the time but was unaware of the effort to high jack education. Praying together in school was a unifying and patriotic action which brought us together. It allowed our youth to understand our heritage and foundations, and it informed immigrants as to where we stood. They were free to worship as they wished but we are a Christian nation. The message was basically "We are Christians but you are welcome here".

[NealyFan]

Hate to burst your bubble: Enforcing the Constitution isn't a plan to derail anything. Teachers aren't allowed to use religion as a tool. Kids can whisper to sky daddy all they want and even have sky daddy clubs after school; it just can't be mandated by the government.

Like I wrote above: if a Muslim teacher (they exist outside of Redneckistan) had little Christian kids pray to their sky daddy, the right-wingers would understand the point I am making.

[tmcats]

for 175 years - 1787 to 1962 - prayer in schools was constitutional. then it wasn't.

[NealyFan]

for 175 years - 1787 to 1962 - prayer in schools was constitutional. then it wasn't.

So was slavery, women not being able to vote or own land, forced castration, poll taxes/literacy tests, criminal laws against being homosexual, and then they weren't. (Often referred to by right-wingers as the good old days.) Funny.

[tmcats]

some things are similar, some things are not.

[WIldWIllieCat]

This thread.....*WOOF*

What don't you like Willie.

the rank ignorance and grievance....it's almost overwhelming

[WIldWIllieCat]

for 175 years - 1787 to 1962 - prayer in schools was constitutional. then it wasn't.

So was slavery, women not being able to vote or own land, forced castration, poll taxes/literacy tests, criminal laws against being homosexual, and then they weren't. (Often referred to by right-wingers as the good old days.) Funny.

must've been when America was "Great"

[xtrawildcat]

Maybe we should just let the schools take over Christian education. Then they could standardize it and we wouldn't have all the differences espoused by Mormons, Catholics, Southern Baptist, Seventh Day Adventist, Evangelicals. And what about Scientology.

Maybe if we ban all the churches in the country the feds could get this religion training on the right track.

[katlander]

Hate to burst your bubble: Enforcing the Constitution isn't a plan to derail anything. Teachers aren't allowed to use religion as a tool. Kids can whisper to sky daddy all they want and even have sky daddy clubs after school; it just can't be mandated by the government.

Like I wrote above: if a Muslim teacher (they exist outside of Redneckistan) had little Christian kids pray to their sky daddy, the right-wingers would understand the point I am making.

Reinterpreting the constitution in leftist terms was not what the framers had in mind. I would not expect a Muslim country to allow me to teach Christianity in their schools and they should be okay if we reciprocate. You guys are using our constitution against us. It really needs to stop. Too bad it ever started. The ACLU fought this battle but now are finding they have helped to create a monster.

[NealyFan]

We are not a “Christian” country for the purposes of government sanction religious practice. And I am grateful that we are not like Muslim theocracies.