Oklahoma State with a postseason ban for the 20-21 season due to NCAA violations

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Highway26north
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Re: Oklahoma State with a postseason ban for the 20-21 season due to NCAA violations

Post by Highway26north » June 6th, 2020, 6:49 am

My take is that the head guy always knows. It's his job to know everything. And you don't get one of these jobs in a major conference if you aren't doing it well somewhere else. Deniability is the key. That's why the tape on Self is so damaging.

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Post by SCKSCat » June 6th, 2020, 12:25 pm

Underwood and his Illinois program should be forced to serve the punishment placed on OSU. It is wrong to punish a program when the coach that caused the violation is coaching elsewhere.

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Post by katlander » June 6th, 2020, 12:32 pm

SCKSCat wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 12:25 pm
Underwood and his Illinois program should be forced to serve the punishment placed on OSU. It is wrong to punish a program when the coach that caused the violation is coaching elsewhere.
Maybe both coach and school should be punished.

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Post by Zoltar » June 6th, 2020, 12:34 pm

Underwood got a 10 year show cause. He will probably never coach at a college again. At least an NCCA school.
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Post by SCKSCat » June 6th, 2020, 12:45 pm

Zoltar wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 12:34 pm
Underwood got a 10 year show cause. He will probably never coach at a college again. At least an NCCA school.
?????? I sure can't find anything on line Zoltar this. It looks like Undiewood is coaching at Illinois. Are you thinking about the assistant coach Evans involved in this OSU matter? I hope you are providing new information about Underwood.

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Post by Zoltar » June 6th, 2020, 12:51 pm

It is Evans with the show proof. Looks like Underwood is clean now. Sorry I got the two clowns mixed up.

https://dailyillini.com/sports/mens-spo ... underwood/
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Post by wild@nite » June 6th, 2020, 12:59 pm

I think it should follow the coaching staff, but also be a hefty financial penalty (I'm talking 5-20 million depending on severity) on the institution that it happened under. That way, the actual coaches get suspended/penalized, the institution will be really careful in monitoring the next coach, and the innocent players don't get hurt.

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Post by tmcats » June 6th, 2020, 1:08 pm

i'm not sure how underwood skates if frank gets nailed at south carolina which is also under investigation. evans worked for both and recruited frank's final 4 team and then got oSu nailed. this is a long way from over.

a bit of a rabbit trail: i really wonder if the ncaa didn't put the fbi up to their investigation in the first place since the ncaa didn't have the tools itself? things get done behind-the-scenes sometimes that we never learn happened. obviously, that's just a hunch on my part. but otherwise, i don't know why the fbi simply dropped out sight after uncovering these recruiting cesspools.
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Post by Highway26north » June 6th, 2020, 1:14 pm

Other Illini posters can correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Colangelo involved in getting Brad to Illinois? Or was he only involved with Monty Williams, who turned the job down first? You'd think Colangelo would be extremely plugged in to who's on the level and who isn't, especially when being a key participant in the informal search committee for his alma mater.

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Post by AJcat7755 » June 6th, 2020, 9:37 pm

SCKSCat wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 12:25 pm
Underwood and his Illinois program should be forced to serve the punishment placed on OSU. It is wrong to punish a program when the coach that caused the violation is coaching elsewhere.
The coach that caused the violation also coached under Boynton at OSU. Boynton and OSU don't get off just because he left after he did all the improper things.

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