Donavan Williams - Do these guys know something?

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Re: Donavan Williams - Do these guys know something?

Post by PurpleOnWhite » April 19th, 2020, 9:23 am

SCKSCat wrote:
April 19th, 2020, 8:49 am
A lot of mess and problems can come with a cute new puppy. Evidently Weber thought he was trainable. The group coming is about the we and not the Me. Hope Boyton gets good value from his lease because if transfer with no wait goes through, he is gone if he has a good year. Loyalty to self is his mantra
“Evidently Weber thought he was trainable.” I would have taken the under on that one.

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Post by csteel25 » April 19th, 2020, 12:26 pm

PurpleOnWhite wrote:
April 19th, 2020, 9:23 am
SCKSCat wrote:
April 19th, 2020, 8:49 am
A lot of mess and problems can come with a cute new puppy. Evidently Weber thought he was trainable. The group coming is about the we and not the Me. Hope Boyton gets good value from his lease because if transfer with no wait goes through, he is gone if he has a good year. Loyalty to self is his mantra
“Evidently Weber thought he was trainable.” I would have taken the under on that one.
Hard to reform when players can leave annually for another destination.

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Post by bigdeal » April 19th, 2020, 8:39 pm

Clearly it is a recruiting miss, no matter what you think. Coach Weber and the staff put a lot work into getting this kid so they clearly wanted him. If you really want a kid and you don't get him, it is a miss. If you put a lot of time and effort into chasing him and he spurns you at the last minute and may have cost you other recruits while you chase him, it is clearly a recruiting miss. Now, does he turn out to be an attitude problem or not fulfill potential then we dodged a bullet, but it is a miss, even though it could turn out for the best. That bring said,I do like the kids we got in this class.

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Post by Puffdad » April 19th, 2020, 9:06 pm

I know what you mean but sometimes it turns out great to miss. We’ll see. Hopefully.

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Post by pulitzerdave » April 19th, 2020, 9:36 pm

I think it all depends on how you look at what transpired. We were all excited about getting him before all the facts were in. Yes, the staff worked hard for him, but what does it say about him that he pledged then reneged? What does it say about him that he described his recruiting experience as a "business". Things about the kid's character were revealed BECAUSE he changed his mind with one day to go before his announcement date. It's OK that he changed his mind. He has a right to do that. But why should we feel we missed out on something that had the potential to go so wrong. I don't see that as a recruiting miss. I see that as a harbinger. Maybe after that story in the KC Star, the coaching staff feels the same way.

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Post by Highway26north » April 19th, 2020, 10:09 pm

I was OK with him as a recruit.

I was even OK with him when he reneged. I did that once or twice in my youth and looking for the right job. Wasn't proud of it but I did it and I recognized I was leaving people hanging.

When I became NOT OK was when I read his interview with Kellis. NOT OK, ok?
I'm looking forward to seeing him in Bramlage. Maybe I'll even have to drive out to see that if some of you can get me a decent seat!

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Post by katlander » April 20th, 2020, 9:17 am

I'm sure we can get you a good seat. You're right, it could just be youthful impulse and indecision. But his statements indicate otherwise. I think he has a lot of growing up to do to be a positive force. We have a great class we don't need to bring in a potential bad apple. Instead we should be after players to compliment and fill out the class. A really good inside player or a versatile 3/4 player would make sense. We can afford to be patient right now. If a good prospect can be uncovered then great. Otherwise we can just get to work for next year.
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Post by bigdeal » April 20th, 2020, 2:29 pm

So PDave, what you are saying is that the coaches didn't recognize the potential problems and failed to move on from a kid they shouldn't have been recruiting whereas I was saying they failed to close on the kid. A miss defined two different ways, but a miss nonetheless. Either way, we can agree we are both excited about the guys they did get, and just saddened they didn't land that cherry on top kid.

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Post by pulitzerdave » April 20th, 2020, 4:00 pm

bigdeal wrote:
April 20th, 2020, 2:29 pm
So PDave, what you are saying is that the coaches didn't recognize the potential problems and failed to move on from a kid they shouldn't have been recruiting whereas I was saying they failed to close on the kid. A miss defined two different ways, but a miss nonetheless. Either way, we can agree we are both excited about the guys they did get, and just saddened they didn't land that cherry on top kid.
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Post by stlcatfan » April 20th, 2020, 4:52 pm

pulitzerdave wrote:
April 20th, 2020, 4:00 pm
bigdeal wrote:
April 20th, 2020, 2:29 pm
So PDave, what you are saying is that the coaches didn't recognize the potential problems and failed to move on from a kid they shouldn't have been recruiting whereas I was saying they failed to close on the kid. A miss defined two different ways, but a miss nonetheless. Either way, we can agree we are both excited about the guys they did get, and just saddened they didn't land that cherry on top kid.
Cherries have pits known to contain cyanide. Not enough to make you sick if consumed, but nasty none the less.
Sticking with the fruit analogy, "one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch."

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