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Re: ISU Game Thread and Notes

Post by gdgjr78 » February 13th, 2020, 1:38 pm

learnin wrote:
February 12th, 2020, 11:36 pm
gdgjr78 wrote:
February 12th, 2020, 9:26 pm


The four years before that WV finished 3rd or higher. That's consistency and having a down year every 5 years or so is understandable.
They also are pretty consistent in that they don't win any conference championships.
Yeah and they made it to the sweet 16 3 out of those 4 years instead of getting bounced in the 1st rd. 🤷‍♂️
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Post by learnin » February 13th, 2020, 2:43 pm

gdgjr78 wrote:
February 13th, 2020, 1:38 pm
learnin wrote:
February 12th, 2020, 11:36 pm


They also are pretty consistent in that they don't win any conference championships.
Yeah and they made it to the sweet 16 3 out of those 4 years instead of getting bounced in the 1st rd. 🤷‍♂️
They can have all the sweet 16's they want. I'll take championships over that any time.

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Post by AJcat7755 » February 13th, 2020, 3:05 pm

If I had to rank my personal level of accomplishments from most important to least:

NC
NC Runner Up
Final 4
Regular Season Conference Championship
Elite 8
Sweet 16
Conference Tournament Championship
Round of 32
Round of 64
NIT Championship
Play In Game


For example, I would much rather my team win the NIT, then lose in a play in game even though they can say they made the tournament. It's gets a little tricky with the Round of 64 for me. On one hand, I would rather make the "real" tournament and have a shot at a NCAA championship, but on the other hand, is a Round of 64 upset better then winning the whole NIT and taking home a trophy and experience?

For things like the S16 and E8, no one really talks about those as much. It's NC and how many F4 a team has made. So a conference championship is longer living in history, and takes a good season, and not just winning 2/3 games.

And despite what ISU fans think, a conference tournament championship is not better then winning the regular season 8-)
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Post by gdgjr78 » February 13th, 2020, 3:48 pm

AJcat7755 wrote:
February 13th, 2020, 3:05 pm
If I had to rank my personal level of accomplishments from most important to least:

NC
NC Runner Up
Final 4
Regular Season Conference Championship
Elite 8
Sweet 16
Conference Tournament Championship
Round of 32
Round of 64
NIT Championship
Play In Game


For example, I would much rather my team win the NIT, then lose in a play in game even though they can say they made the tournament. It's gets a little tricky with the Round of 64 for me. On one hand, I would rather make the "real" tournament and have a shot at a NCAA championship, but on the other hand, is a Round of 64 upset better then winning the whole NIT and taking home a trophy and experience?

For things like the S16 and E8, no one really talks about those as much. It's NC and how many F4 a team has made. So a conference championship is longer living in history, and takes a good season, and not just winning 2/3 games.

And despite what ISU fans think, a conference tournament championship is not better then winning the regular season 8-)
That's pretty good, I'd put regular season conf championship behind elite 8 and slightly ahead of sweet 16.
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Post by AJcat7755 » February 13th, 2020, 6:11 pm

gdgjr78 wrote:
February 13th, 2020, 3:48 pm
That's pretty good, I'd put regular season conf championship behind elite 8 and slightly ahead of sweet 16.
Taking your switch, and applying KSU v. WVU since 2012 (I removed ones that neither had points in for simplicity)


KSU:
1 - Elite 8
2 - Regular Season Conference Championship
1 - Sweet 16
1 - Round of 32
4 - Round of 64
1 - Play In Game


WVU:
0 - Elite 8
0 - Regular Season Conference Championship
3 - Sweet 16
3 - Round of 32
4 - Round of 64
0 - Play In Game

Which would fans prefer as a set of accomplishments since 2012?

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Post by NealyFan » February 13th, 2020, 6:15 pm

WVU has also been to a Final Four in my lifetime.
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Post by xtrawildcat » February 13th, 2020, 6:16 pm

Kudos for the last couple of posts. Good thoughts and information. Took a little effort and I appreciate it.

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Post by gdgjr78 » February 13th, 2020, 6:22 pm

AJcat7755 wrote:
February 13th, 2020, 6:11 pm
gdgjr78 wrote:
February 13th, 2020, 3:48 pm
That's pretty good, I'd put regular season conf championship behind elite 8 and slightly ahead of sweet 16.
Taking your switch, and applying KSU v. WVU since 2012 (I removed ones that neither had points in for simplicity)


KSU:
1 - Elite 8
2 - Regular Season Conference Championship
1 - Sweet 16
1 - Round of 32
4 - Round of 64
1 - Play In Game


WVU:
0 - Elite 8
0 - Regular Season Conference Championship
3 - Sweet 16
3 - Round of 32
4 - Round of 64
0 - Play In Game

Which would fans prefer as a set of accomplishments since 2012?
Honestly the faceplanting after both conf championships take the sheen off them for me. I just can't understand not being ready to play those games and putting forth a putrid performance both those years. Doing it once is bad enough but doing it twice 🤦‍♂️
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