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Re: James Love

Post by Puffdad » February 7th, 2020, 11:39 am

I’m not sure how it’s moot??? It’s happened every year for the last 5 years in a row. Will it happen next year? If I was coaching I’d be checking everything I could check.......

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Post by KITNooga » February 7th, 2020, 11:47 am

Puffdad wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 11:39 am
I’m not sure how it’s moot??? It’s happened every year for the last 5 years in a row. Will it happen next year? If I was coaching I’d be checking everything I could check.......
agreed.

interesting (to me) thought Puff: if one were to talk to Dean now, how does he maintain foot health versus his college career?
doing things differently? anything to learn here?

or is it just time, physical maturity.

I wonder: these kids get awful tall awful fast. takes a while, I'd think, for bodies to fully adapt?

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Post by KsJoey » February 7th, 2020, 11:52 am

Kid has been injured most of his time here. It's too bad for him, and too bad for KSU to get virtually nothing in return, on the court, after giving 4 years of scholarships. He'll be best known as the main KSU guy in the KU/KSU brawl, and the headliner of long list of bigmen recruiting failures under Bruce Weber.

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Post by tmcats » February 7th, 2020, 11:55 am

dj johnson, mak mawein, dean wade are not recruiting failures.
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Post by KsJoey » February 7th, 2020, 12:05 pm

tmcats wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 11:55 am
dj johnson, mak mawein, dean wade are not recruiting failures.
True, but for every bigman that has panned out, there are 3 or so who hasn't

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Post by Puffdad » February 7th, 2020, 12:09 pm

KITNooga wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 11:47 am
Puffdad wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 11:39 am
I’m not sure how it’s moot??? It’s happened every year for the last 5 years in a row. Will it happen next year? If I was coaching I’d be checking everything I could check.......
agreed.

interesting (to me) thought Puff: if one were to talk to Dean now, how does he maintain foot health versus his college career?
doing things differently? anything to learn here?

or is it just time, physical maturity.

I wonder: these kids get awful tall awful fast. takes a while, I'd think, for bodies to fully adapt?
Those are all great questions Kit and I have asked those questions. I have shared before that he’s not carrying the weight he was in college.....not lifting as heavy.....and not having 2 or 3 hour practices. I could say more but being on a public forum is not the place to do that. Most of that is pretty personal. I will agree from my personal experiences that big kids that grow fast have more foot problems than smaller guys.
But having said that he had NO foot issues in basketball in high school or jr. high.

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Post by gdgjr78 » February 7th, 2020, 12:25 pm

Puffdad wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 12:09 pm
KITNooga wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 11:47 am


agreed.

interesting (to me) thought Puff: if one were to talk to Dean now, how does he maintain foot health versus his college career?
doing things differently? anything to learn here?

or is it just time, physical maturity.

I wonder: these kids get awful tall awful fast. takes a while, I'd think, for bodies to fully adapt?
Those are all great questions Kit and I have asked those questions. I have shared before that he’s not carrying the weight he was in college.....not lifting as heavy.....and not having 2 or 3 hour practices. I could say more but being on a public forum is not the place to do that. Most of that is pretty personal. I will agree from my personal experiences that big kids that grow fast have more foot problems than smaller guys.
But having said that he had NO foot issues in basketball in high school or jr. high.
I am simply making an educated guess upon my history playing basketball and of the stress large human beings place upon their feet but the length and intensity of practices would be the first thing I would examine. If I was Weber I would pull in the best drs and sports medicine experts I possibly could to see what their opinions are about how the ENTIRE program is run. Even if they say that the program is doing everything right then at least they will know it's bad luck.
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Post by bhoovy » February 7th, 2020, 1:01 pm

Puffdad wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 12:09 pm
KITNooga wrote:
February 7th, 2020, 11:47 am


agreed.

interesting (to me) thought Puff: if one were to talk to Dean now, how does he maintain foot health versus his college career?
doing things differently? anything to learn here?

or is it just time, physical maturity.

I wonder: these kids get awful tall awful fast. takes a while, I'd think, for bodies to fully adapt?
Those are all great questions Kit and I have asked those questions. I have shared before that he’s not carrying the weight he was in college.....not lifting as heavy.....and not having 2 or 3 hour practices. I could say more but being on a public forum is not the place to do that. Most of that is pretty personal. I will agree from my personal experiences that big kids that grow fast have more foot problems than smaller guys.
But having said that he had NO foot issues in basketball in high school or jr. high.
Just thoughts/questions, not side taking comments.

I’m betting Dean was much stronger when he left than when he came in as a frosh? So wouldn’t need to do as much lifting, at least during the season? just looking to maintain now?

And there’s not as much practice because of playing 82+ games vs the 30+ in college. But the pro season is longer.

And didn’t you say be broke his foot in high school? If so there was some issue whether it was basketball, football, track or whatever, even if it was a freak accident? And wasn’t it related to the incident he was experiencing his pain?

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Post by Puffdad » February 7th, 2020, 1:41 pm

He broke the 5th metatarsal as a freshman during football season and had it pinned. Wasn’t even football related. Never experienced any problems with the pin or that particular metatarsal again.

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Post by cg4ksu » February 7th, 2020, 1:52 pm

My intention is not to put anyone down, but rather to perhaps put a different spin on this that hasn't been discussed.

There is a tribe in Africa, I can't recall the name or where it's located, that is able to produce some of the top long-distance runners in the world on a very regular basis. Studies have been done on them and found that the tribe has rituals that put young men through an extraordinary amount of pain dating back as far as can be recorded. One theory is that these people have evolved to have a much, much higher pain tolerance than the average man. The higher pain tolerance allows them to push themselves harder than their competitors.

The point is, pain is relative. Obviously the players that have reported injuries have had injuries -- there's no doubting that. However, could there be other programs that have players with the same (or similar) injuries that go undetected because the player is able to play through and/or not even recognize the injury? If other bigs are continually having problems then their sub-conscience mind could be thinking, "I hope I don't have an injury like that." And then when some pain comes up, you see the trainer and find that the injury is something that might have gone unnoticed in another person and possibly even healed itself once the grind of the season stopped. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that these players are soft -- I'm just saying each person is different.

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