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Re: More unwritten rules

Post by WIldWIllieCat » February 1st, 2020, 2:05 pm

The op is actually a mixture of written rules and coaching decisions/conduct. I suppose you could call them unwritten rules of coaching but they really have nothing to do with player decisions/conduct.
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Post by wild@nite » February 1st, 2020, 3:00 pm

Opensource wrote:
February 1st, 2020, 2:03 pm
Is there any training or certifications necessary to coach in middle and high school in Kansas?
If not teaching certified, it's called Rule 10. Minimal training, but some.

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Post by learnin » February 1st, 2020, 6:25 pm

Seems to me there's an awful lot of unwritten rules. Actually, the term, "unwritten rule" is an oxymoron if ever there was one. If they're important for proper and fair play, they ought to be written down and enforced. If not, they become pretty subjective and subject to bias. Sportsmanship is a good thing. But, when does good sportsmanship become bad sportsmanship? If you have a 35 point lead at the half, is it good sportsmanship to put your starters in to start the second half? If so, how long can you leave them in before it becomes bad sportsmanship? Three minutes and a 40 point lead? All of the third quarter? I would say the coaches, players, and players fans, of the team that is leading by 40, would have a different perspective on sportsmanship than the team that is being spanked.

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Post by Puffdad » February 1st, 2020, 6:42 pm

It’s not hard to figure out the rules. And if you don’t know the coaching fraternity will teach you for nothing...... And no need to write down rules to replace common sense. Treat others as you want to be treated.

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Post by learnin » February 1st, 2020, 8:19 pm

Puffdad wrote:
February 1st, 2020, 6:42 pm
It’s not hard to figure out the rules. And if you don’t know the coaching fraternity will teach you for nothing...... And no need to write down rules to replace common sense. Treat others as you want to be treated.
Sounds good, so when do you put the scrubs in during a blow out?

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Post by Puffdad » February 1st, 2020, 9:45 pm

Our rule of thumb was just have starters play 2 or 3 minutes of 2nd half in blow outs. Got a TON of thank you’s!!

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Post by Puffdad » February 2nd, 2020, 1:26 am

Here’s a better but a little tougher situation to deal fairly with. Same situation as before. We’ve got a 25-30 point lead halfway through the 3rd quarter. You know the running clock will probably get the game over quickly and mercilessly in the 4 th.quarter. So third quarter end and now you decide players 8 thru 12 are going out to finish the game come hell or high water. So then the other coach says haha! Here’s my chance. Instead of letting his jv get some experience against us he devised a grand plan scheme. I going to play my 5 best and their jv lower scrubs and were going to beat the hell out of these guys! Oops now here’s where the enforcement training begins. We’d usually holler down to the other coach and say “Are you sure you want to do that??If we get no satisfactory answer we’d let it go and see how it played out for a minute or two. Then we might say at the end of the 3rd “is that what you want to teach your varsity and out jv?” If no response the training in etteqette began. Ok starters go back and check in. There eyes were as big as saucers seeing what the unsportsmanship varsity was doing to their freshmen jv buddies. We came on and full court pressed like nothing they’d ever seen before. And then the lead jumped up to 40-50 and we asked “have you had enough?” If they responded kindly we usually pulled the starters off and finished like it should have been finished and no press.!Lesson learned quickly in a language they could understand!!!!! And they usually didn’t try to pull that crap again!! And usually something was said moving through the line to the effect of “dont pull that crap again and it will be much better next time. Okay, okay. I got it!!!!!!!

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Post by learnin » February 2nd, 2020, 2:29 am

What about yesterday’s game? Culver takes the ball in for a dunk up ten with about 20 seconds left and plenty of time on shot clock. What do the unwritten rules say about that? The announcers seemed to think it was cheap. Huggs seemed to dislike it

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Post by Hypeman » February 2nd, 2020, 8:32 am

Opensource wrote:
February 1st, 2020, 2:03 pm
Is there any training or certifications necessary to coach in middle and high school in Kansas?
No, they are the unwritten rules we were just referring to and perhaps the only ones interested in coaching at those levels nowadays are people who can’t follow the rules. I’d laugh about that but it’s not really a laughing matter.

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Post by tmcats » February 2nd, 2020, 10:01 am

the unwritten rules are unwritten for a reason. time to move to a different subject, methinks?
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