Wichita State reloads and is pretty good. Why can't we emulate this program?

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Wichita State reloads and is pretty good. Why can't we emulate this program?

Post by SCKSCat » January 12th, 2020, 8:59 am

I live close enough to Wichita to root for the Shockers. I am sad that my beloved Wildcats can't reload consistently like WSU. I think we have better facilities and are in a better league. We can't get to KU level, but come on.... lower than WSU.

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Post by DeereCatFan » January 12th, 2020, 10:24 am

They have a much better coach.

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Post by Ksustephens » January 12th, 2020, 10:37 am

Not to mention Koch money
DeereCatFan wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 10:24 am
They have a much better coach.

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Post by pulitzerdave » January 12th, 2020, 10:55 am

I don't know if he's a better coach, but he's a better recruiter, and evaluator of talent on a year to year basis. Weber has done well with some 3-star classes with an occasional 4-star thrown in, and very poor with others. You can't hit the target firing blanks.

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Post by pipe95 » January 12th, 2020, 10:55 am

Didn’t WSU not make any postseason 2 years ago? I was thinking they stunk 2 years ago and then did the NIT thing last year?

So this is our rebuild this year. Realistically our future next year will probably be NIT, since so many of our best players will be SO and FR.

Sucks and that is on Bruce for such horrible recruiting classes for basically 3 years.

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Post by Hypeman » January 12th, 2020, 11:54 am

pipe95 wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 10:55 am
Didn’t WSU not make any postseason 2 years ago? I was thinking they stunk 2 years ago and then did the NIT thing last year?

So this is our rebuild this year. Realistically our future next year will probably be NIT, since so many of our best players will be SO and FR.

Sucks and that is on Bruce for such horrible recruiting classes for basically 3 years.
That’s probably correct. WSU took a two year dip and their back up now. I didn’t see marshal on the hot seat when they were down. Weber seems to be assembling some young pieces for a couple years down the road. The rest of this year will be brutal. I do think we are better than OSU, OU, and ISU. We could conceivably finish above them still. I think there will be 3 or 4 teams with very few conference wins and several with great records. It’s not a balanced league at all. Of course I’ve been saying for weeks that we have no more than 4 tourney teams

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Post by learnin » January 12th, 2020, 2:06 pm

Before I make any judgment on Wichita State program, and coach, I would have to know what goes on behind closed doors in a variety of areas.

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Post by DeereCatFan » January 12th, 2020, 2:09 pm

The lulls are tough to take. I understand the talent the Cats lost and yes the poor recruiting a couple years which is rearing its ugly head. I just am concerned it will be cyclical like this for Weber. Truly hope I am wrong but kind has been that way to this point. Then when the Cats do great (win the Big 12) they suck it up in the dance.

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Post by kinsleycat » January 12th, 2020, 2:33 pm

I'm jealous of WSU's ability to attract good big men to play for a mid major school.

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Post by bhoovy » January 12th, 2020, 3:54 pm

pipe95 wrote:
January 12th, 2020, 10:55 am
Didn’t WSU not make any postseason 2 years ago? I was thinking they stunk 2 years ago and then did the NIT thing last year?

So this is our rebuild this year. Realistically our future next year will probably be NIT, since so many of our best players will be SO and FR.

Sucks and that is on Bruce for such horrible recruiting classes for basically 3 years.
That would be incorrect. Last year they struggled after losing 6 of their top 8 players. Started their conference season 1-6 and then went like 10-2 and went to the semifinals of the nit.

The previous 7 years with Marshall they’ve been to the ncaa’s every year with a final four and a sweet 16. And the year before those 7 he lead them to the nit championship.

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