KSU vs LSU championship game 6:30 pm 11/23

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Re: KSU vs LSU championship game 6:30 pm 11/23

Post by xtrawildcat » November 24th, 2022, 9:02 am

We did get some favorable calls. LSU got a couple also including a call against Johnson in the first half. Refs were calling every touch in the first half for both teams.

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Post by SCKSCat » November 24th, 2022, 9:20 am

Sometimes little things make a game difference turn out positively.
I just read in the second half that we had 14 pts. off of LSU turnovers in second half. I would like to know how many total turnovers both teams had in the second half and the percent of conversion to points. Good defense can also be a good weapon.
Secondly, we made around 80% of our free throws, them 50%. How many FT attempts were made. Also, how many old fashion 3 pt plays for KSU were there last night, I recall at least 3. When you are not making 3 pt shots, these factors to me seem important.
Third, how many charging fouls did LSU commit. I seem to recall either Stan or Wyatt saying 6. If this is right that is amazing . I remember watching a video this summer where the coaches were teaching players how to get these kind of fouls; supposedly this is a Baylor thing.
Fourth I wonder if fatigue was a factor in poor 3 point shooting as neither team did well. I see this as an area we need to improve on. Mainly more from others besides Nowell and Johnson. Consistency with 3 pointers would be nice. I think that this weakness will affect how we finish in the conference and against the likes of KU and Baylor who have 3 pt specialists.
Lastly, I think N'Guessan and Tomlin did a good job against thier big man, AND DID NOT FOUL OUT!
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Post by tmcats » November 24th, 2022, 9:26 am

this morning's take after sleeping on it.

1. again, thankful higgins was the official because he has the nads to make the correct tough call;
2. as i've said before, sills will be a prime time player this year, a tough sucker, winner, athletic;
3. kj will certainly learn to let his inner attitude rest but gosh what a baller to hit that last jumper;
4. some night's they're just not falling but in the end the kid from st. patrick's @ harlem came through;
5. as learnin' said earlier, how long has it been that ksu could just open the floor for a guy to go one-on-one, pullen/brown?;
6. my feed went bad at the end - ksu text told me before the flo, geezzz;
7. at least we got to watch but enough of the flo, please;
8. i thought i heard tang say it was the bahamas next year?;
9. they will certainly bring that trophy to the ku game saturday;
10. beat butler and the octagon will be blazing for wichita;

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Post by Matisse228 » November 24th, 2022, 9:39 am

Good morning from Nowell after the gutsy win:

https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/15 ... zT-TGJDMtA
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Post by xtrawildcat » November 24th, 2022, 10:07 am

SCKSCat wrote:
November 24th, 2022, 9:20 am
Sometimes little things make a game difference turn out positively.
I just read in the second half that we had 14 pts. off of LSU turnovers in second half. I would like to know how many total turnovers both teams had in the second half and the percent of conversion to points. Good defense can also be a good weapon.
Secondly, we made around 80% of our free throws, them 50%. How many FT attempts were made. Also, how many old fashion 3 pt plays for KSU were there last night, I recall at least 3. When you are not making 3 pt shots, these factors to me seem important.
Third, how many charging fouls did LSU commit. I seem to recall either Stan or Wyatt saying 6. If this is right that is amazing . I remember watching a video this summer where the coaches were teaching players how to get these kind of fouls; supposedly this is a Baylor thing.
Fourth I wonder if fatigue was a factor in poor 3 point shooting as neither team did well. I see this as an area we need to improve on. Mainly more from others besides Nowell and Johnson. Consistency with 3 pointers would be nice. I think that this weakness will affect how we finish in the conference and against the likes of KU and Baylor who have 3 pt specialists.
Lastly, I think N'Guessan and Tomlin did a good job against thier big man, AND DID NOT FOUL OUT!
We missed some threes last night but overall have been consistently good. 38% as a team. Carter, Greene and Massoud are all shootinG a higher % than Nowell.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sc ... /2023.html

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Post by ToledoCat#3 » November 24th, 2022, 10:21 am

Great win. We fans need to keep these 2 game in mind when games later on go the wrong way at the whim of the ball and the refs.

Learnin' has a point about the Force. Sure looks like Coach Tang has it working in his favor.

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Another observation: Some players who grew up playing BB in tough urban neighborhoods have a competitive edge that they have a hard time keeping under control when they get to college hoops. Self and team elebrations are fine and fitting.

Taunting and jawing and preening seldom have a good outcome. I hope Coach Tang squelches taunting in the bud before it costs us a game.
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Post by stlcatfan » November 24th, 2022, 10:30 am

Matisse228 wrote:
November 24th, 2022, 9:39 am
Good morning from Nowell after the gutsy win:

https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/15 ... zT-TGJDMtA
Ha! Love it. :D
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Post by WildcatEngineer » November 24th, 2022, 11:43 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0UWbN1Q0U

Several YouTube high light videos on the LSU game. Give credit to John Higgins for getting a stop watch.
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Post by Kralicek » November 24th, 2022, 12:02 pm

Matisse228 wrote:
November 24th, 2022, 9:39 am
Good morning from Nowell after the gutsy win:

https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/15 ... zT-TGJDMtA
That was worth a good chuckle!!

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Post by Matisse228 » November 24th, 2022, 12:11 pm

I think the hard practices and conditioning drills are making a difference at end of games.
I love that our coaches push the team extra hard in practices, but still allow them to have fun. These coaches and players seem to genuinely get along and care for each other.
stlcatfan wrote:
November 24th, 2022, 10:30 am
Matisse228 wrote:
November 24th, 2022, 9:39 am
Good morning from Nowell after the gutsy win:

https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/15 ... zT-TGJDMtA
Ha! Love it. :D

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