Will basketball be the reason why we wind up in a dork conference
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Re: Will basketball be the reason why we wind up in a dork conference
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Why is there something rather than nothing?
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And IMO, KU isn't going to get an invite. Their dumpster fire of a football "program" leading the charge as the primary reason. But additionally, and maybe primarily since their cheating BB team is ALL they have athletically to brag about has a situation I have seen no one mention that puts them in an interesting predicament.Quietstorm5 wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 7:36 pmYep, every BigTen school is or was an AAU member. It's why so many Mizzou fans thought they were a shoe-in for a BigTen invite the 1st conference realignment. Also Kansas went asking the BigTen for an invite they haven't received one as of yet.
Think about it. Now that Dollar Bill and his Adidas money have been pretty much neutralized by the fact that these kids can get paid anywhere, and with any amount.........the Payhawks are now going to be relegated to the status of being just like every other program in the country. It might take a few years, but they are going to be a ho-hum presentation on the floor as they will now get outbid, legally, by a slew of other teams and are not going to get the slimy back door payouts to bring in as many 5* kids, er um, thugs that they have had access to prior.
I may be way off here, but I think the AD's and other conferences recognize this fact. And it's going to figure in BIG TIME in the lack of offers they get. They should be fighting harder than anyone to keep the BIG XII together. They have less to offer than we do at this point.
In a perfect world, everyone would choose hard work, morals and ethics over obscene money and fame. And everyone outside of Lowrents would be required to be a red blooded, card carrying Payhawk hater.
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i concur. taking on ku would be tantamount to marrying the street-corner whore.
Why is there something rather than nothing?
Back to the question. It is not the ONLY reason but DEFINITELY it is a reason. You can be bad for a season. But being historically bad for two consecutive season is a problem. On top of that, this is also bad timing. If this was in 2014-16, the story now would be different. We could be the come-back kids.
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rajstat wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 6:14 pmBack to the question. It is not the ONLY reason but DEFINITELY it is a reason. You can be bad for a season. But being historically bad for two consecutive season is a problem. On top of that, this is also bad timing. If this was in 2014-16, the story now would be different. We could be the come-back kids.
Your timing is not correct. UT and OU have notified the Big 12 that they are leaving in 2025 at the end of the GOR. Just yesterday the Big 12 Commissioner confirmed that date. If UT and OU leave before then, they will owe 76 million each in penalties under the GOR (plus other possible penalties under lawsuits, but that is a different issue).
UT, OU, and ESPN were plotting to duck out of the conference early without penalties for UT and OU and with a drastically reduced broadcast fee for ESPN by effectively breaking up the Big 12. The AAC (whose commissioner used to work for ESPN, btw) was also in on a plan to raid the Big 12, but they are currently sweating bullets under the threat of a lawsuit by the Big 12. The bottom line is that as of now the relevant time frame would be two or three years down the road, and possibly more if lawsuits are in play. The previous two years will just be part of a bigger picture for KSU basketball that would include the two conference championships and the two Elite Eights as well as what happens over the next few seasons.
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Two consecutive bad seasons is not "historically bad".rajstat wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 6:14 pmBack to the question. It is not the ONLY reason but DEFINITELY it is a reason. You can be bad for a season. But being historically bad for two consecutive season is a problem. On top of that, this is also bad timing. If this was in 2014-16, the story now would be different. We could be the come-back kids.
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I think such a period is often referred to as rebuilding years. Hopefully we are presently rebuilt and will have 2 or 3 good years.bigpurpleman wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 8:56 pmTwo consecutive bad seasons is not "historically bad".rajstat wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 6:14 pmBack to the question. It is not the ONLY reason but DEFINITELY it is a reason. You can be bad for a season. But being historically bad for two consecutive season is a problem. On top of that, this is also bad timing. If this was in 2014-16, the story now would be different. We could be the come-back kids.
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Especially when one of those two years will have a giant COVID asterisk next to it. If we can string together a couple decent seasons, the past two will be all but forgotten.bigpurpleman wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 8:56 pmTwo consecutive bad seasons is not "historically bad".rajstat wrote: ↑July 29th, 2021, 6:14 pmBack to the question. It is not the ONLY reason but DEFINITELY it is a reason. You can be bad for a season. But being historically bad for two consecutive season is a problem. On top of that, this is also bad timing. If this was in 2014-16, the story now would be different. We could be the come-back kids.
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Until the next rebuild. Hopefully not again.stlcatfan wrote: ↑July 31st, 2021, 4:33 pmEspecially when one of those two years will have a giant COVID asterisk next to it. If we can string together a couple decent seasons, the past two will be all but forgotten.bigpurpleman wrote: ↑July 30th, 2021, 8:56 pm
Two consecutive bad seasons is not "historically bad".
In a nutshell an average program over last nine seasons. A couple of shared regular season titles, one very nice ncaa tourney run. Offset by a pair of back to back awful seasons and another 13 loss conference season. Oddity is overall conference mark hovering around .500 is average but that number obtained with highest of highs and lowest of lows.