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Re: KSU vs ISU

Post by Tbonespop » December 1st, 2019, 1:49 am

powercat5000 wrote:
November 30th, 2019, 10:30 pm
bhoovy wrote:
November 30th, 2019, 10:25 pm

Didn’t say it didn’t. But was it not conservative? Didn’t say it was good or bad just conservative.
It was conservative, but it was effective. I don’t fault Messingham at all today, great game!
Messingham called a GREAT game today IMO. Had we had a WR and RB capable of catching a pass in the first half, we would have put up at least another 6-10 points. The defense was really good overall. It was frustrating to see us give up so much on the slant routes to them. All we have to do in that situation is line up J Mac on an inside shade to give him a half step on the position. If we cut off those few slant routes, ISU wouldn't have done anything offensively. But other than those two issues (dropped passes and cutting off inside slant routes), this was a very well played game. Tough to throw in that wind. the INT on Skylar was definitely a casualty of the wind. Purdy should have been picked when he threw it straight to Patton and hit him in the hands. Just not a game geared toward throwing passes beyond about 10 yards.

Very perplexing that Campbell didn't use his timeouts on our last possession in which we kicked the FG. We just bled the clock down and milked 2 minutes off of it just running the ball into the back of our OL. That was really poor clock management on his part. You use your timeouts when on defense because you can control what you do when you have the ball on offense. Just really bad game management by him. Regardless, with the weather and KSU being up 2 scores, it was going to be a tall order to tie the game up.

ISU and KSU are very evenly matched athletically right now. They have better TEs (FAR better than ours), but our WRs are more athletic. And every time Hall ran the ball, I got pissed at the previous coaching staff for doing a crappy recruiting job. Hall is stud. Speaking of STUDs, how about Jacardia Wright? He's a stud in the making. He just needs more reps to get a little better about letting holes develop and following his blockers. He's a bigger body guy that also has speed (extra gear). He will be a stud for us for the next 4 years.

Lots of positives to take away from this game. The biggest hands down was getting the 8th win on the season and restoring order of beating Iowa State.

All in all, a fantastic season IMO (all things considered). 9 points shy of being 10-2 on the season

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Post by MajorAppleCat » December 1st, 2019, 2:11 am

Happy for the win. A must win to get a better bowl game.

Special teams were special.

No stupid penalties... must have worked on eliminating those since last week.

Offense played well under the circumstances, except for dropped passes.

Defense played very well... as usual. However, tackling remains a concern.

Could have easily been a blow-out.

Students decided not to show up for an important game (Kstate and KU really need to schedule their game following Thanksgiving.)
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Post by ArKSU » December 1st, 2019, 2:15 am

As a 2nd generation coach, H.S. and College, who grew up around HOF coaches, it is just awesomely funny reading all these experts who wouldn't know a power play from a speed option.

Can't find my Duffy Daughtery book an the Winged T right now but every version of the RPO is covered in that book. Used to base my Veer, RPO, and Spread Option on. Even stole some Broken Bone and Speed Option from Duffy.
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Post by wild@nite » December 1st, 2019, 2:15 am

This was a big win for future recruiting, imo. ISU's rb is a Wichita kid and a good one. ISU has a couple of Kansas's top commits. CK and company sent a message tonight. Go Cats!!

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Post by mustang » December 1st, 2019, 2:42 am

Kansas State has owned this series, lots of close wins and the game this year was a little more comfortable. I personally think Campbell is building a special program that should year in year out fight with K-State for the upper tier of the league.Next season will be a crazy Thursday night in Ames, this while being terribly one sided is a nice rivalry. I made it to a pair of K-State this season and was impressed in several facets. The honor and dignity shown Coach Snyder is awesome and the love of playing for each other as the famous family really makes one feel very good. Bill Snyder built a powerful legacy and Chris Kleiman is doing things in a very Snyder way, this is working quite well. Manhattan is a neat and undervalued college town. Hoping to get back for a basketball game!

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Post by Westriverbison » December 1st, 2019, 8:41 am

Great game by the Cats. I’ve watched a lot of Klieman football over the years. I’m elated for the success his team had this year. The drive in the fourth quarter was classic. Run the ball and eat clock, watch the opponent slowly fade away as they realize the inevitable.

The comments by some on here I’ve seen before, on Bison boards. No imagination on offense? Laughable. You don’t have to throw the ball 50 times a game for the offense to be innovative. I realize it’s not exciting for some fans, but I really enjoy watching the opposition slowly wilt. Holcomb was never going to be a fit as quarterback in this offense. He was destined to be one of the greatest tight ends in KState history. I think he knew that and decided that path wasn’t for him. I hope he finds a system that fits him and has wild success.

I think KState best days are coming. I have that much confidence in Coach K.

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Post by ksustars754 » December 1st, 2019, 9:09 am

Well worth the 10 hour drive from Chicago! It’s so satisfying to beat ISU and their delusional weirdo fans.

-DL, while not many sacks, got consistent pressure on Purdy. I was impressed.
-DBs, besides Goolsby bad angle on post, were solid. Lance Robinson is a going to be a star.
-OL got their juice back and enforced their will.
-RBs and WRs did an outstanding job blocking. They couldn’t catch but definitely blocked well which turned 5 yard runs into 15 yarders.
-Messingham saw his QB was shaken. What’d he do? Decided to pound the ball and not look back. Awesome job by him.
-Blake Lynch is special. That kick was so awesome into the wind.
-Youngblood and KR unit overall were best in the nation, yet again.

One “Negative”/Gripe
-It was blustery and cold but it’s late November in the Midwest, I’m not sure what everyone expects. The crowd was pathetic and yes it was mainly students and mainly post halftime but that makes me sad for our players especially. The crowd that showed up was pretty loud though.

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Post by RichardZ » December 1st, 2019, 10:43 am

What a nice game for the seniors on this team to remember. Crappy weather day and playing knockem' in the nose football against a ranked team.

Every team has a 'woulda, coulda, shoulda' and West Virginia and Texas were our games. Would have been sweet to garner 10 wins before a bowl game. But, all in all an 8 win season when most folks were just wishing and hoping for any bowl game before the season started to me is a pretty successful season. New coaches, new systems and all.

Congrats Cats! You guys have a lot to be proud of....

One of the nicest parts is that I think we have some underclassmen who are going to be difference makers on the field come the next few years.
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Post by KITNooga » December 1st, 2019, 10:46 am

mustang wrote:
December 1st, 2019, 2:42 am
Kansas State has owned this series, lots of close wins and the game this year was a little more comfortable.
great observation this week in the Texas game: that this texas team won 7 one-score games last year. games that could have gone either way.
call them 50-50 games. UT was 'that close' to losing 7 games MORE.

I was thinking about how we've given up some huge leads in this series last night.

again, here's to OUR 'most stubborn sons of ******* in the Big 12'!
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Post by Tbonespop » December 1st, 2019, 10:59 am

I really hope that last nights game shuts up some of the media yapper talking heads about us not being able to block a 3 man front (Yes, Kurtz and Fitz, I'm talking to you guys and your chronies). Please STFU about it.

Kansas State OWNED the trenches in this game - both sides. Our big uglies came into this game with something to prove. It was like night and day from what this team did against ISU and WVU. This was a great win by the team. Very proud of the team, coaches, and program. Looking forward to the bowl game.

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