Are we becoming undisciplined

The defending Big XII Champions
Tbonespop
Posts: 3932
Joined: September 2nd, 2013, 10:37 pm
Has thanked: 1154 times
Been thanked: 1411 times

Re: Are we becoming undisciplined

Post by Tbonespop » November 25th, 2019, 7:30 pm

AJcat7755 wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 6:08 pm
Comparing Penalty Yards Per Game

ISU -
Season 38.6
Last 3 games 53.0
Away Games 47.5

KSU -
Season 58.6
Last 3 games 54.7
Home Games 51.4

I would expect the teams would be pretty close in this matchup on Saturday.

And against TTU, we had 9 penalties for 72 yards. Take away a stupid celebration penalty and 2 false starts on the OL, we are 6 penalties for 47 yards, which is very respectable (if we avg that it would be 2nd in the B12). I'll take that all day if it means we play with fight and aggression in the trenches - which inevitably leads to some flags here and there. Just cut out the stupid stuff and we are fine.
EMAW

Tbonespop
Posts: 3932
Joined: September 2nd, 2013, 10:37 pm
Has thanked: 1154 times
Been thanked: 1411 times

Post by Tbonespop » November 25th, 2019, 7:36 pm

tmcats wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 11:54 am
youngblood knows he made a mistake. the trick is to learn from it. and i'd say he has. move on now. what irritates me is media and fans saying it's okay. no, it's not okay. there are rules in life.

https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/stat ... 6325304320

https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1198424282126110721
totally agree 1000% TM. and Kurtz makes my head hurt at times. He's been waffling all year from winning streak, to losing streak, to winning streak, to losing streak. One week, "we lack talent". Next week, we don't lack talent and we are really good. Next week, we lack talent. It's the same damn team John. :banghead:

It ain't hard to figure out. We are inconsistent (just listen to Klieman - he's a straight shooter). Inexperience, lack of quality depth, some areas are lacking in talent (but not all), and first year in the program all contribute to inconsistency from week to week. We are highly competitive, improving on recruiting, and building for the future. Lots to be positive about.

But for the love of all that his holy, can we just stop blaming every loss on "lacking talent". You don't beat OU and come within 3 points of beating Texas if we lack that much talent. We need quality of depth, more experience, and kids with time in the program. It will get better.
EMAW

KITNooga
Posts: 11759
Joined: September 19th, 2017, 8:22 am
Has thanked: 1347 times
Been thanked: 1222 times

Post by KITNooga » November 25th, 2019, 8:54 pm

very very well said, Tbones!
If you have to be persuaded, reminded, pressured, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized...you can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest

Opensource
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Post by Opensource » November 25th, 2019, 9:27 pm

Is the celebration rule enforced consistently? I hate these folks that say ther are rules to be followed in the when the rules are really about being arbitrary to control the outcome.

hilltopwildcat
Posts: 4191
Joined: September 4th, 2013, 12:52 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 8 times

Post by hilltopwildcat » November 25th, 2019, 10:38 pm

Who knows what edict came down from on high (NCAA) last week?

Tbonespop
Posts: 3932
Joined: September 2nd, 2013, 10:37 pm
Has thanked: 1154 times
Been thanked: 1411 times

Post by Tbonespop » November 25th, 2019, 11:02 pm

hilltopwildcat wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 10:38 pm
Who knows what edict came down from on high (NCAA) last week?
Exactly. Probably similar to the edict for spotting the ball for OU late in the game against TCU. Good God that was ridiculous. That zebra crew in that game was like a corral full of steers - no balls. If you spot the ball on the play based on what you clearly didn't see, why not spot the ball based on replay based on what you clearly couldn't see - other than the player with the ball never even physically got anywhere close to the LOS let alone the line to gain.....

I just hate incompetence.
EMAW

tmcats
Posts: 23441
Joined: September 3rd, 2013, 1:09 pm
Has thanked: 3347 times
Been thanked: 5985 times

Pick 'Em

Post by tmcats » November 26th, 2019, 10:50 am

Opensource wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 9:27 pm
Is the celebration rule enforced consistently? I hate these folks that say ther are rules to be followed in the when the rules are really about being arbitrary to control the outcome.
that's a silly, whiny statement. whether it's called or not isn't the point. the point is simple: rules exist and need to be followed. kman's john kurtz is the same guy who applauded frank for cheating because ku was doing it. it's a lame mindset: if you can get away with it, it's fair. baloney. do they teach a journalism course in ethics at ksu?
Why is there something rather than nothing?

Opensource
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Post by Opensource » November 26th, 2019, 12:55 pm

tmcats wrote:
November 26th, 2019, 10:50 am
Opensource wrote:
November 25th, 2019, 9:27 pm
Is the celebration rule enforced consistently? I hate these folks that say ther are rules to be followed in the when the rules are really about being arbitrary to control the outcome.
that's a silly, whiny statement. whether it's called or not isn't the point. the point is simple: rules exist and need to be followed. kman's john kurtz is the same guy who applauded frank for cheating because ku was doing it. it's a lame mindset: if you can get away with it, it's fair. baloney. do they teach a journalism course in ethics at ksu?
Oh, "silly" and "Whiny". Your continued flaw is your understanding of "rule" and why people should follow "rule." You assume that the rule is designed for an equal playing field. You assume that the rules are enforced equally. And, you assume that those following the rules agree to them. Ethics doesn't mean following rules that are arbitrarily enforced to keep people in power. Why do we have the rule? Did the act violate the rule? Is it enforced equally or arbitrarily? Did those involved agree on the rules?

tmcats
Posts: 23441
Joined: September 3rd, 2013, 1:09 pm
Has thanked: 3347 times
Been thanked: 5985 times

Pick 'Em

Post by tmcats » November 26th, 2019, 1:07 pm

Opensource wrote:
November 26th, 2019, 12:55 pm
tmcats wrote:
November 26th, 2019, 10:50 am


that's a silly, whiny statement. whether it's called or not isn't the point. the point is simple: rules exist and need to be followed. kman's john kurtz is the same guy who applauded frank for cheating because ku was doing it. it's a lame mindset: if you can get away with it, it's fair. baloney. do they teach a journalism course in ethics at ksu?
Oh, "silly" and "Whiny". Your continued flaw is your understanding of "rule" and why people should follow "rule." You assume that the rule is designed for an equal playing field. You assume that the rules are enforced equally. And, you assume that those following the rules agree to them. Ethics doesn't mean following rules that are arbitrarily enforced to keep people in power. Why do we have the rule? Did the act violate the rule? Is it enforced equally or arbitrarily? Did those involved agree on the rules?
you're millennial, right? maybe you're john kurtz?
Why is there something rather than nothing?

Post Reply