Again, you're stuck on growth/location. If our staff tries to get kids focused on "experience" of a true college atmosphere, then we have an advantage.Hypeman wrote: ↑October 8th, 2019, 8:51 pmI think you are missing the point. The facilities arms race is nearly ‘everywhere’; sadly. And it looks like it will continue; sadly. Community growth has happened in nearly every college town. Many have become destinations for retirees, many have seen significant business development that is probably the result of having a University, lots of reasons. That isn’t unique to Manhattan, and in my opinion, it’s has been less so over the last 25+ years in Manhattan than many communities like it. Perhaps one could argue Manhattan has had a mini-boom in the last 10. Regardless, A couple extra flights at the airport is positive, but we all still drive 2 hours to get on planes in KC most of the time. That’s isolation in the minds of many.wild@nite wrote: ↑October 8th, 2019, 9:15 am
I'm wondering if you're old enough to have seen Manhattan and our facilities in 1988 vs now. It is indeed apples and oranges. The fact that you don't know that means that you are either under the age of 40ish and are talking out of your rear end or you have your head buried in the sand. We used to be miles behind every single team we played. Miles... We are now miles ahead of many, at the very least, on par with most, and behind very few, facility wise. Also, I've been to many college campuses and towns throughout the midwest and west coast and if you think it's about growth, then you don't get the unique aspect of college athletics. Our community is unique and instead of excuses, it needs to be sold that way. This staff gets it and is selling it that way. That's why I'm going to remain in their corner.
Can you recruit a powerhouse, I’d suggest a really skilled and experienced coach can recruit the right mix of kids to have a competitor every 4 years or so. Bruce Weber has show how that can be done. But, Weber’s best classes are still weaker than most on paper. He’s just a master at identifying the ‘right’ players to fit a style he can incorporate to be successful against more talented comp.
And of course Weber's classes prior to this year have been weaker on paper (although not most, as you say). We aren't cheating.