Neal Brown to WVU

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Neal Brown to WVU

Post by opcat7755 » January 4th, 2019, 1:05 pm

He was reportedly in the top 2 for the K-State job, and now that he is joining WVU, I'm sure no one will compare CK and Brown throughout the years.

Given the roster situations, CK might actually have a better next year then WVU though.

Also interesting that Troy's top commit, was McClain, the JUCO WR that was a verbal to K-State. He changed schools and so did his coach. NCAA has granted waivers to get out to LOI for coaching changes though.
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Post by KsJoey » January 4th, 2019, 2:49 pm

Probably the best WVU could do figuring the timing.

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Post by wazucat » January 4th, 2019, 6:57 pm

ajcksu82 wrote:
January 4th, 2019, 1:05 pm
He was reportedly in the top 2 for the K-State job, and now that he is joining WVU, I'm sure no one will compare CK and Brown throughout the years. ;-)

Given the roster situations, CK might actually have a better next year then WVU though.

Also interesting that Troy's top commit, was McClain, the JUCO WR that was a verbal to K-State. He changed schools and so did his coach. NCAA has granted waivers to get out to LOI for coaching changes though.
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Post by bhoovy » January 4th, 2019, 11:42 pm

KsJoey wrote:
January 4th, 2019, 2:49 pm
Probably the best WVU could do figuring the timing.
I think it’s a solid hire. It’s who I was hoping for if we weren’t going after Venables or Leavitt.

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Post by highplainsdawg » January 5th, 2019, 2:12 pm

KsJoey wrote:
January 4th, 2019, 2:49 pm
Probably the best WVU could do figuring the timing.
I'm not sure I see this a desperation or compromised hire. It could be a little early for such a promotion but Brown is a promising young coach. I'm happy with Klieman but would have been happy with Brown as well.
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Post by oscar » January 7th, 2019, 10:18 am

It is a darn good hire. He has won at the fbs level, runs a clean and competitive program.
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Post by opcat7755 » January 7th, 2019, 12:34 pm

wazucat wrote:
January 4th, 2019, 6:57 pm
ajcksu82 wrote:
January 4th, 2019, 1:05 pm
Given the roster situations, CK might actually have a better next year then WVU though.
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West Virginia losses:
Will Grier (QB) played in 22 games over the last 2 years with 785 pass attempts. They will likely turn the offense over to Jack Allison. The former Miami player, transferred to WVU and has only thrown 45 total passes in college, 35 in the bowl game loss to Syracuse where he was 17 for 35 with 1 INT.
Gary Jennings and David Sills (WR) who rank 6th and 8th in all time yards at WVU. They were both 900+ yards and 13 TD+ this last season.
Trevon Wesco (TE) who was their 4th leading receiver by yards.
Matt Hardy (RG)
Jabril Robinson starting (DE) and Ezekile Rose backup (DE)
Quondarius Qualls backup (LB)
Kenny Bigelow (NT)
Toyous Avery (S) and Dravon Askew-Henry (S)

They do return the rest of the O-Line on the 2 deep and a collection of good RBs and the defense returns most of the LBs and all the corners. But losing your starting, Heisman candidate (at some point) QB and 2 of their best in history WRs is going to hurt. They also have a ton of depth returning, so they are in good shape for the future, but the immediate replacements could be a bit painful in transition. Compared to K-State who returns quite a bit of starters, outside of the RB position, but is lacking in future depth.

Then looking at the schedule and how they finished 2018:
James Madison (FCS): (9-4), #6 FCS, 2nd round loss in FCS playoffs
@ Missouri: (8-5), loss to Oklahoma State in the Liberty Bowl. Lose QB Drew Lock but brings in Clemson transfer Kelly Bryant
NC State: (9-4), loss to Texas A&M in the Gator Bowl
@ KU: (3-9), new HC Les Miles
BYE
Texas: (10-4), win over Georgia in the Sugar Bowl
ISU: (8-5), loss to Washington State in the Alamo Bowl
@ OU: (12-2), loss to Alabama in the Orange Bowl
BYE
@ BU: (7-6), win over Vanderbilt in the Texas Bowl
TTU: (5-7), new HC Matt Wells
@ KSU: (5-7), new HC Chris Kleiman
OSU: (7-6), win over Missouri in the Liberty Bowl
@ TCU: (7-6), win over Cal in the Cheez-It Bowl

With the exception of KU, that is a very tough front loaded schedule. James Madison is one of the top FCS teams, playing for a FCS NC in 2017 and winning it in 2016 although they haven't upset a P5 school since 2010. Then 2 P5 teams in the OOC, including 1 on the road to a SEC school. Then getting the first Big 12 game on the road, even if it is KU. Followed up by the top 3 Big 12 teams from the last year and likely at least 2 of the top 3 next year as well. WVU doesn't get the other 2 new HCs until later in the season and it includes traveling to KS in mid November.

Compare that schedule to K-State's. K-State gets a decent FCS team, in Nicholls who finished #14 in FCS, but not at James Madison level. K-State then gets a home game against a (3-9) Bowling Green team who fired their coach midway through this year before their road game against an SEC team. K-State then gets a BYE before opening Big 12 play on the road. They also get an easier start to Big 12 play @OSU, BU, BYE, TCU before having to see OU or UT. K-State also gets the 2 other new HC from WVU and TTU later in the year as well.

All things considered, think K-State has might actually have a better 2019 then WVU. After that though, WVU is a bit better shape roster wise, so it will be interesting to see how that turns out.

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