Hypeman wrote: ↑
January 1st, 2019, 3:54 pm
My take on what I’ve read is we will remain in mediocrity if Kliemann and company buy into the attitude of many on this board. Hopefully they will change the attitude! Rubbing elbows with the old SWC teams may make some feel good, but I’d prefer we beat them. OU could have scored 100 points on us this year if they would have wanted to. It was nice of them to reign it in. However, as a result of teams reigning it in, we probably play the same schedule as NDSU because we are typically competing against 2nd and 3rd string players in the 2nd half of many games.
The fact of the matter is we suck at football and always have. There is a reason they named the Highway and Stadium after Snyder, winning any games has been a miracle with our culture.
Like NDSU, we were playing in the MIssouri Valley at one time. OSU played in it too, and a lot longer than us. And, we were rarely competitive then! I think Grinnell was kicking our aaa. Shoot, Drake could have moved from the Missouri Valley to the big 8 instead of us and lost 89 straight times to Nebraska too. Would that make them a football powerhouse? I guess so, if P5 patsy = powerhouse. Why wouldn’t NDSU fill that slot as well as us? They could probably do better and afford it to with all that oil cash they have falling out of their pockets.
Reminder, we were the school that forced the Big 12 to change its scheduling rules because we would play 1-AA teams so often (the cupcakes at that, not the good ones). Shoot, we paid Fresno over a million to ‘not’ play a non-con game when we tried to schedule a reasonable non-con opponent but it then appeared they had a decent team. I guess the dubbing would have hurt our image, so we played Washburn or someone instead. Rediculous!
I do think you are right that NDSU would be Marshall if they moved up. I wouldn’t do it if I was them. But, we are no better than Marshall either, and some of us hope Kliemann can change that. Heaven knows we donate enough money to the program to get good seats, it would be nice to be competive more than twice a century. Keep sucking and we’ll quit donating. The only reason the fans support hasn’t completely plummeted already is people have an effection for Snyder! He’s gone now and remember our history without him ... Futility U!
This is my last post on the topic. I’m not sure why I meandered over here from the BBall forum. I’ve
grown to hate football. It’s just s huge waste of millions of dollars.
Big 12 - NDSU Join, well give us the invite, Big 12 becomes northern Big 12 and Southern Big 12. I would love to have you guys and OK and Texas come up and play in the Fargo Dome. But reality is we don't have the $$$$$ to compete, but we are in the Big 12 in Wrestling already.
Due to our location, Big 12 would be the best fit, but I like where we are, as we would become Marshall probably in time....its fun playing in playoffs each week in Dec. Oh is that too hard for FBS teams to play too many games...I hate hearing that comment. That's crap. We do it.
Fact: NDSU players over the past 8 years have played 1 more entire season of college football then any other college player in the nation not at NDSU. Think of that. (actually 6 years of football)They redshirt, then get 4 years, and in those years they have played another entire season of college football because of the playoff games that MATTER and in championships! What an amazing FACT! No other program in the nation can say that! That's a HUGE advantage of experience for the Bison players. FBS players can't touch that. And we play in meaningful games in December, which I hope to see FBS 8 team playoff in Dec. and KSU win the Big 12 in the next 2 years and get into that tournament in Dec.
I wish you guys the best, glad to see your giving our coach 14 million dollars, and 6 years. We'll be watching, I think you will be in good shape...