Are you excited about the Chiefs

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Are you excited about the Chiefs

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2018, 9:07 pm

Yeah
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Naw
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Total votes: 21

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Re: Are you excited about the Chiefs

Post by kstueve » February 3rd, 2020, 8:17 pm

KITNooga wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 9:27 am
csteel25 wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 8:12 am
That's what makes it kind of fun. Take a stand and see where things end up.

I thought Ryan Leaf would be way better than Peyton Manning.
I thought Todd Blackledge would take us to the Super Bowl...

:D

and by the way: I wondered about Mahommes and his ability to win 'the big game'. Didn't see it at TTech. and, for Pat, he struggled last night.
thankfully it's a team game. the kid is learning, growing before us.

hoping we can see a relatively injury free career from him
Neve understood the Blackledge pick. I wanted Jim Kelly

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Post by KITNooga » February 3rd, 2020, 9:20 pm

kstueve wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 8:17 pm
KITNooga wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 9:27 am


I thought Todd Blackledge would take us to the Super Bowl...

:D

and by the way: I wondered about Mahommes and his ability to win 'the big game'. Didn't see it at TTech. and, for Pat, he struggled last night.
thankfully it's a team game. the kid is learning, growing before us.

hoping we can see a relatively injury free career from him
Neve understood the Blackledge pick. I wanted Jim Kelly
wanted to clarify: Pat's good. very good. going to get better.

fingers crossed that he can avoid serious injury and enjoy a long career.

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Post by csteel25 » February 4th, 2020, 11:37 am

The worst QB drafting team in recent history may be the Pittsburgh Steelers. They keep drafting guys that I thought were the most overrated in college. Landry Jones, Josh Dobbs and Mason Rudolph.

At least they dumped some of the cancers off the squad bc I could no longer watch them.

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Post by AJcat7755 » February 4th, 2020, 5:21 pm

csteel25 wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 11:37 am
The worst QB drafting team in recent history may be the Pittsburgh Steelers. They keep drafting guys that I thought were the most overrated in college. Landry Jones, Josh Dobbs and Mason Rudolph.

At least they dumped some of the cancers off the squad bc I could no longer watch them.
But to be fair, only Rudolph was drafted in the 1st 3 rounds. Anything after that is not really going to be a starter in the NFL. Even 3rd round is a stretch.

The Browns really win the worst at drafting future franchise QB award. Since 2004, when the Steelers got Ben, they have only thrown 1 top 3 round picks at a QB, while the Browns did this:

Browns:
1st round 2018 - Baker Mayfield (TBD)
2nd round 2017 - DeShone Kizer
3rd round 2016 - Cody Kessler
1st round 2014 - Johnny Manziel
1st round 2012 - Brandon Weeden
3rd round 2010 - Colt McCoy
1st round 2007 - Brady Quinn
3rd round 2005 - Charlie Frye

Jets are a close contender:
1st round 2018 - Sam Darnold
2nd round 2016 - Christian Hackenberg
2nd round 2013 - Geno Smith
1st round 2009 - Mark Sanchez
2nd round 2006 - Kellen Clemens

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Post by ToledoCat#2 » February 4th, 2020, 6:04 pm

And the Chiefs could have had Dan Marino. He was still on the draft board when they took Blackledge if my memory is correct.

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Post by AJcat7755 » February 4th, 2020, 6:20 pm

ToledoCat#2 wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 6:04 pm
And the Chiefs could have had Dan Marino. He was still on the draft board when they took Blackledge if my memory is correct.
You are correct.

Elway went #1
Blackledge went #7
Kelly went #14
Eason went #15
O'Brien went #24
Marino went #27

Blackledge had the worst career of any of those 1st round QBs.

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Post by csteel25 » February 5th, 2020, 7:59 am

AJcat7755 wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 5:21 pm
csteel25 wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 11:37 am
The worst QB drafting team in recent history may be the Pittsburgh Steelers. They keep drafting guys that I thought were the most overrated in college. Landry Jones, Josh Dobbs and Mason Rudolph.

At least they dumped some of the cancers off the squad bc I could no longer watch them.
But to be fair, only Rudolph was drafted in the 1st 3 rounds. Anything after that is not really going to be a starter in the NFL. Even 3rd round is a stretch.

The Browns really win the worst at drafting future franchise QB award. Since 2004, when the Steelers got Ben, they have only thrown 1 top 3 round picks at a QB, while the Browns did this:

Browns:
1st round 2018 - Baker Mayfield (TBD)
2nd round 2017 - DeShone Kizer
3rd round 2016 - Cody Kessler
1st round 2014 - Johnny Manziel
1st round 2012 - Brandon Weeden
3rd round 2010 - Colt McCoy
1st round 2007 - Brady Quinn
3rd round 2005 - Charlie Frye

Jets are a close contender:
1st round 2018 - Sam Darnold
2nd round 2016 - Christian Hackenberg
2nd round 2013 - Geno Smith
1st round 2009 - Mark Sanchez
2nd round 2006 - Kellen Clemens
You have a point. I think what gets me about the Steelers is they stick with those bad picks for too long.

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Post by KSUbetcha » February 6th, 2020, 1:24 pm

AJcat7755 wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 6:20 pm
ToledoCat#2 wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 6:04 pm
And the Chiefs could have had Dan Marino. He was still on the draft board when they took Blackledge if my memory is correct.
You are correct.

Elway went #1
Blackledge went #7
Kelly went #14
Eason went #15
O'Brien went #24
Marino went #27

Blackledge had the worst career of any of those 1st round QBs.

Any of those QBs listed above would have been better than Blackledge, most definitely. Total wasted pick for the Chiefs.

That pick left them NOT drafting a QB for the better part of a decade and a half or longer. Chiefs were left a bit gun shy after the Blackledge debacle.

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Post by AJcat7755 » February 6th, 2020, 3:28 pm

KSUbetcha wrote:
February 6th, 2020, 1:24 pm
AJcat7755 wrote:
February 4th, 2020, 6:20 pm


You are correct.

Elway went #1
Blackledge went #7
Kelly went #14
Eason went #15
O'Brien went #24
Marino went #27

Blackledge had the worst career of any of those 1st round QBs.

Any of those QBs listed above would have been better than Blackledge, most definitely. Total wasted pick for the Chiefs.

That pick left them NOT drafting a QB for the better part of a decade and a half or longer. Chiefs were left a bit gun shy after the Blackledge debacle.
Well the Chiefs still tried drafting QBs after Blackledge, just not another one in the 1st round.

2016 - 5th round - Kevin Hogan
2014 - 5th round - Aaron Murray
2011 - 5th round - Ricky Stanzi
2006 - 3rd round - Brodie Croyle
1997 - 4th round - Pat Barnes
1995 - 4th round - Steve Stenstrom
1994 - 7th round - Steve Matthews
1992 - 2nd round - Matt Blundin
1989 - 2nd round - Mike Elkins
1988 - 11th round - Danny McManus
1987 - 7th round - Doug Hudson

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Post by Londoncat » February 6th, 2020, 5:28 pm

I was of the opinion that, back in 2012 when Andrew Luck was available, KC should have pulled a Mike Ditka and traded away all of our 2012 picks to the Colts for Luck. It looked like that would have been a pretty good deal at the time - especially since the Chiefs draft picks that year were kind of a dud (Memphis DT Dontari Poe, Illinois OT Jeff Allen, Oklahoma OT Donald Stephenson, Fresno St. WR Devon Wylie, Alabama CB De'Quan Menzie, Texas A&M RB Cyrus Gray, DSU DT Jerome Long, and Michigan WR Junior Hemingway) and we were horrible at QB (Matt Cassel, Ricky Stanzi and Brady Quinn). But then Luck got the injury bug and now, just 7 years later, he was forced to retire. Maybe he would have had a better, healthier, stint in KC . . . but it is great to finally have a legit, young, franchise QB after decades of questionable QB draft picks.

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