Serious Question

[Tbonespop]

If you guys want to see how we should be using Avery, tune in and watch Washington versus Cincinnati on ABC tonight. To me, Avery from a skill set perspective reminds me most of Jayden Daniels. During the game they other night, the announcers were throwing around Lamar Jackson, but I don't think that is accurate. Avery reminds me of Jayden Daniels and that's who I think you model his game after. Now, Avery's passing ability isn't nearly as refined or polished as Daniels. But that's what Avery has the ability to be in my opinion. Go back and look at how LSU used Daniels last year and watch the Commanders tonight. That's what Avery could be.

[Zoltar]

I think you are giving the 'pro' way too much leeway. He is making more than $1 million a year. It is time to fish or cut bait.

You make the big money you need to show you are worth it. This applies to all NIL positions on the team. Show you are worth the money or get out of the way. You asked for this, now that you have it, produce now.

Things are different than they were a few years ago.

[Ksuminnesotacat]

I think you are giving the 'pro' way too much leeway. He is making more than $1 million a year. It is time to fish or cut bait.

You make the big money you need to show you are worth it. This applies to all NIL positions on the team. Show you are worth the money or get out of the way. You asked for this, now that you have it, produce now.

Things are different than they were a few years ago.

This has nothing to do with my question, you need to start an “ I’m pissed about nil thread and want to vent about it” thread…

[Zoltar]

This has everything to do with your thread. Fish or cut bait.

[Ksuminnesotacat]

This has everything to do with your thread. Fish or cut bait.

no i asked if the staff is utilizing the players in the wrong way. Not wether someone was upset that AJ has a nice corvette and has some money. You know putting the kids in a position to succeed. Like what used to be said in the good old days by LHCBS …… The current answer is no… Has nothing to do with cut shad sides…

[katlander]

Maybe this would have been a better option until he proves himself as a top level D1 qb.

In all seriousness, though, I think Avery will be fine. He just needs more experience and growth. Games like the one at BYU are part of that growing process. He will learn more from this loss than if we had beaten BYU by 30 points.

I agree with this 100%. I would like a list of the K-State teams with young quarterbacks that have had really good years. Nearly all of our best teams had senior quarterbacks.

Many, or most, maybe nearly all, of the posters here did not want Avery to red shirt and were wanting him to take over for Will at the slightest provocation. When I argued for a red shirt many reacted strongly and were adamant that Avery would be gone before his senior season. We had a chance for an extremely experienced Will Howard leading this year's team with an extremely talented red shirt freshman coming off the bench to learn and provide a change of pace.

I would have liked Avery to be used as an X factor the last couple years where he would play receiver part of the time, run the Wildcat, and do other things like return kicks which would utilize his amazing talent. Avery could have been the deep threat we could really use. Ryan Tannehill played tight end for a couple of years at A&M before being moved to quarterback and went on to be a long time starter in the NFL.

I do not know how Avery would have felt about waiting another year to be the guy but he appears very humble and cooperative. We certainly did not want him to transfer. He is a phenom but even phenoms have a learning curve. The mistake in my book was letting the experienced guy transfer and playing Avery too soon. But given the hype around Avery it may have been difficult to do anything else.

That is all hindsight now. Where do we go from here? The BYU game was a freak show. All we can do is learn from it as we proceed. Don't panic. Don't over react. At this point I feel our coaches should have a heart to heart with Avery and see what he feels would be the best way to proceed. What game plan does he feel comfortable with and can he execute to give our offense the best chance to be successful.

[katlander]

We now have a similar and maybe more troubling situation. Freshman QB Blake Barnett is starting to wow the coaches with his performance on the scout team. WTH are we going to do with him?? Too talented to sit IMO. Get his butt in the game in some role. Just like Avery he could be amazing at wide-out, returner, wildcat guy etc. If we don't want to run Avery out of the Wildcat let Blake do it. I don't see this guy riding the pine for very long. Wake up! He has 4 games to play without giving up his red shirt. Give him some experience ASAP.

FROM K-STATE SPORTS EXTRA

Quarterback Blake Barnett stood out in practice last week

K-State fans haven’t had a chance to see freshman quarterback Blake Barnett attempt a pass in a game, but the 6-foot-1, 228-pound native of Erie, Colorado, continues to impress coaches. He did exactly that during practice last week.

Typically, a scout-team quarterback is utilized in practice during the week to give the K-State defense a “look” at the opposing team’s quarterback.

This time, Barnett ran plays from out of the K-State offensive playbook instead.

“Blake Barnett was fun to watch because we missed him during the spring,” Klieman said. “He missed all of spring football, so for him to truly get an opportunity – he just first learned the offense in fall camp – for him to now run scout team and then play quarterback and do K-State stuff, that was fun for us to see. We saw some really good things out of Blake, but that was fun because we hadn’t really had a chance to see that yet.”

Barnett came to K-State as the No. 1 player in the state of Colorado for the Class of 2024 by Rivals, and he was also rated as the seventh-best dual-threat quarterback in the country by Rivals as well. Barnett broke the Colorado state record by recording 159 total touchdowns, topping a mark previously held by current San Francisco 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey (141).

Barnett threw for 7,518 yards and 88 touchdowns and ran for 3,420 yards and another 68 scores during his four-year career at Erie High School.

“The dude is a competitor, and he works really hard,” Johnson said. “He doesn’t want to lose in anything he does, and that’s a great trait as a quarterback. You can get caught up in all the stats, but at the end of the day, you just want a win in that column, and that’s how he is. He works hard, he’s really smart and he has a really strong arm. He’s really talented. He definitely is going to be a player to watch in the years to come.”

[tmcats]

barnett just got here. was not at spring practice.

[katlander]

barnett just got here. was not at spring practice.

Wow, that makes his early performance even more impressive.

AT ERIE HIGH SCHOOL: A four-year letterwinner and two-year team captain for the Tigers under head coach Jeff Giger... Rated the top overall player in the state of Colorado for the Class of 2024 by Rivals, while the organization viewed him as the seventh-best dual-threat quarterback in the class... Also rated the top overall prospect in the state by On3, in addition to being ranked as the 17th-best dual-threat quarterback in the country by ESPN... A three-year first team all-state player by the Colorado High School Activities Association, while he was named the Class 4A Player of the Year as a senior... Started all 43 career games played and led the Tigers to a 36-7 record, including a state championship as a senior... Broke the Colorado state record for overall touchdowns with 159, a record that was previously held by current San Francisco 49er running back Christian McCaffrey (141)... Threw for 7,518 yards and 88 touchdowns in addition to running for 3,420 yards and another 68 scores during his prep career... Prepped at the same high school as Wildcat offensive lineman John Pastore... Also a three-year letterwinner in track – winning state championships in the 100-meter dash and 4x200-meter dash – while he was a two-year letterwinner in basketball. How was he a 3 star??

All this and he is 6-1 & 228#...............This guy needs to see the field.................NOW

Saturday late night would be the perfect time to bring him out in his home state. Use him to run the legs off of Hunter.

[powercat5000]

barnett just got here. was not at spring practice.

Wow, that makes his early performance even more impressive.

AT ERIE HIGH SCHOOL: A four-year letterwinner and two-year team captain for the Tigers under head coach Jeff Giger... Rated the top overall player in the state of Colorado for the Class of 2024 by Rivals, while the organization viewed him as the seventh-best dual-threat quarterback in the class... Also rated the top overall prospect in the state by On3, in addition to being ranked as the 17th-best dual-threat quarterback in the country by ESPN... A three-year first team all-state player by the Colorado High School Activities Association, while he was named the Class 4A Player of the Year as a senior... Started all 43 career games played and led the Tigers to a 36-7 record, including a state championship as a senior... Broke the Colorado state record for overall touchdowns with 159, a record that was previously held by current San Francisco 49er running back Christian McCaffrey (141)... Threw for 7,518 yards and 88 touchdowns in addition to running for 3,420 yards and another 68 scores during his prep career... Prepped at the same high school as Wildcat offensive lineman John Pastore... Also a three-year letterwinner in track – winning state championships in the 100-meter dash and 4x200-meter dash – while he was a two-year letterwinner in basketball. How was he a 3 star??

All this and he is 6-1 & 228#...............This guy needs to see the field.................NOW

Saturday late night would be the perfect time to bring him out in his home state. Use him to run the legs off of Hunter.

My guess- If he was 6’-5” he’d probably be a 4 or 5*.