Serious Question

[Tbonespop]

If you guys want to see how we should be using Avery, tune in and watch Washington versus Cincinnati on ABC tonight. To me, Avery from a skill set perspective reminds me most of Jayden Daniels. During the game they other night, the announcers were throwing around Lamar Jackson, but I don't think that is accurate. Avery reminds me of Jayden Daniels and that's who I think you model his game after. Now, Avery's passing ability isn't nearly as refined or polished as Daniels. But that's what Avery has the ability to be in my opinion. Go back and look at how LSU used Daniels last year and watch the Commanders tonight. That's what Avery could be.

[Zoltar]

I think you are giving the 'pro' way too much leeway. He is making more than $1 million a year. It is time to fish or cut bait.

You make the big money you need to show you are worth it. This applies to all NIL positions on the team. Show you are worth the money or get out of the way. You asked for this, now that you have it, produce now.

Things are different than they were a few years ago.

[Ksuminnesotacat]

I think you are giving the 'pro' way too much leeway. He is making more than $1 million a year. It is time to fish or cut bait.

You make the big money you need to show you are worth it. This applies to all NIL positions on the team. Show you are worth the money or get out of the way. You asked for this, now that you have it, produce now.

Things are different than they were a few years ago.

This has nothing to do with my question, you need to start an “ I’m pissed about nil thread and want to vent about it” thread…

[Zoltar]

This has everything to do with your thread. Fish or cut bait.

[Ksuminnesotacat]

This has everything to do with your thread. Fish or cut bait.

no i asked if the staff is utilizing the players in the wrong way. Not wether someone was upset that AJ has a nice corvette and has some money. You know putting the kids in a position to succeed. Like what used to be said in the good old days by LHCBS …… The current answer is no… Has nothing to do with cut shad sides…

[katlander]

Maybe this would have been a better option until he proves himself as a top level D1 qb.

In all seriousness, though, I think Avery will be fine. He just needs more experience and growth. Games like the one at BYU are part of that growing process. He will learn more from this loss than if we had beaten BYU by 30 points.

I agree with this 100%. I would like a list of the K-State teams with young quarterbacks that have had really good years. Nearly all of our best teams had senior quarterbacks.

Many, or most, maybe nearly all, of the posters here did not want Avery to red shirt and were wanting him to take over for Will at the slightest provocation. When I argued for a red shirt many reacted strongly and were adamant that Avery would be gone before his senior season. We had a chance for an extremely experienced Will Howard leading this year's team with an extremely talented red shirt freshman coming off the bench to learn and provide a change of pace.

I would have liked Avery to be used as an X factor the last couple years where he would play receiver part of the time, run the Wildcat, and do other things like return kicks which would utilize his amazing talent. Avery could have been the deep threat we could really use. Ryan Tannehill played tight end for a couple of years at A&M before being moved to quarterback and went on to be a long time starter in the NFL.

I do not know how Avery would have felt about waiting another year to be the guy but he appears very humble and cooperative. We certainly did not want him to transfer. He is a phenom but even phenoms have a learning curve. The mistake in my book was letting the experienced guy transfer and playing Avery too soon. But given the hype around Avery it may have been difficult to do anything else.

That is all hindsight now. Where do we go from here? The BYU game was a freak show. All we can do is learn from it as we proceed. Don't panic. Don't over react. At this point I feel our coaches should have a heart to heart with Avery and see what he feels would be the best way to proceed. What game plan does he feel comfortable with and can he execute to give our offense the best chance to be successful.