Georgia joins states allowing college athletes to be paid

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Re: Georgia joins states allowing college athletes to be paid

Post by wild@nite » May 9th, 2021, 4:59 pm

tmcats wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 4:14 pm
you said they got their education for 'free.' that's bull dung of the first order. and yes, most would not play football if not for the education that comes with it.

i do not understand how 'fans' can be so mean-spirited towards student-athletes, who for the most part, are great youngsters. these high&mighty, naysayer attitudes never have made sense to me.
Monetarily, it's free. Monetarily, it's not for 98%.

Mean spirited because I believe they are getting enough? Holy cripes man. Get a grip. I disagree so I'm mean. Get over yourself.

Enough is enough. A $200,000 schollie and stipend $ is enough. Not wanting aprofessional structure for college kids isn't mean spirited. By the way, most of the players I know are totally against anything other than the stipend they get now. That's where I stand.

Mean spirited. LOL... Nope, just tired of the greed and misplaced priorities in society.

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Post by katlander » May 9th, 2021, 8:17 pm

The sad reality may be that we have done this to ourselves. By over emphasizing winning we demand more and more from coaches and they from the athletes. Its a ton of work these days for all involved. Far different then back in the day when you played on the team which meant a daily practice and a Saturday game. Now it is a full time year around job and the school part is a distant second.

I don't like paying the athletes but we now demand too much of them. Too much emphasis on winning. I too may soon be mostly done with college sports as I have been for sometime with the pro game. I see this development causing many more problems then it solves.

My immediate question is if the teams that pay players will be allowed to compete against those who don't. I agree that our country is heading down some very questionable roads.

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Post by PurpleOnWhite » May 9th, 2021, 8:45 pm

I would guess that the blue bloods in college sports will continue their dominance, starting with the SEC in football. There will be no lack of business and whatever/whoever else that desire to be associated with the prominent players, and that will pay handsomely for that opportunity. The KStates of the world will struggle to compete, much as we do now. ESPN has its work cut out to save the sport imo, although I suppose they will contract the best players to pitch their brand.
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Post by katlander » May 9th, 2021, 9:22 pm

Sports are about the heart. Once you take that out of the equation its a whole new ball game. No advertising campaign will change my mind, let alone my heart. I have already began to lose respect for K-State.

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Post by KITNooga » May 10th, 2021, 8:34 am

tmcats wrote:
May 9th, 2021, 1:03 pm
"giant building by our football stadium" - i'm not sure what you're talking about, the indoor training facility?

and student-athlete educations are hardly free. they spend pretty much 24/7/365 developing their bodies and skills for our entertainment.
i'll take the time to chime in here. they don't do it 'for our entertainment'. they do it for themselves and their teammates. not the fans in the stands.

sorry, but 'we' just aren't that important. there are a lot more athletes that work just as hard if not harder than football/basketball players and never play with fans in the stands. never have a televised competition.

yet they still do it. I did it.

I cherish those times, memories. the things I learned about myself; the opportunity to commit to a team purpose/goal and work together to get there. sometimes succeeding; often times having to reset and work harder for the next go-round.


when I can not access KSU sports without paying (last year I had to pay to watch on ESPN+, etc and did NOT) I find I have other more enjoyable activities. usually outside in the woods or on the water.

paying these kids to play? not for me. they can have it. you all can have it.

I'm de-investing. I expect, respect those who choose otherwise.
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Post by tmcats » May 10th, 2021, 10:37 am

if sports were not entertainment for fans, the whole system would collapse, and that seems to be what's happening. i'm not arguing that point because i feel it myself.

however, to say that athletes get a 'free' education suggests that they don't earn it which is complete bull-shiz. their work generated $116,609,268 in revenue here last year.
Why is there something rather than nothing?

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Post by mustang » May 10th, 2021, 11:00 am

My brother played for SMU in the early 80’s (cheating big time under Ron Meyer) days of Dickerson and James and even then it was a full time job for him all year. Players seldom saw their families and it was merely a college football job where you got some academics sprinkled in. I’m not shocked at the events
taking place nowadays and honestly would never say these guys don’t earn their education and perks.
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Post by KsJoey » May 10th, 2021, 11:38 am

I'm not against the athletes receiving money... I just wish it was a universal amount. Depending on the level of football, every scholarship athlete receives a specific amount. Make it an equal field for the level of player. But the way it's going, it's not going to be that. Programs are going to be essentially buying athletes through sponsors, which gives even more leverage to the top schools, than they already have... and that's not good for College Football.

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Post by katlander » May 10th, 2021, 11:42 am

its a choice. Life is full of them. That's the way it is in a free country. Football is a lot of work but it is mostly a labor of love. Its a pretty big deal to play college sports. It must not be too bad of a gig because tens of thousands are lined up to play. Some turn down the opportunity but not many. If we were having trouble getting enough players to make a team then there may be a case to pay them. Paying them is likely to cause a pandora's box of problems. It will be a friggin mess, and totally unnecessary. If it is not a mess and does not fundamentally change the nature of college sports I may remain a fan at some level. Just not seeing that scenario. Go to college or go pro. Keep it simple. Teams that pay players get the death penalty. Then they can form a semi pro league, Good riddance.

Any chance that some colleges will go pro and some stay amateur? This may be a better solution then selling us all down the river.
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Post by spot2180 » May 10th, 2021, 11:44 am

This payment, will it be given to women athletes as well?

I don't see this lawsuit waiting to happen making it past the supreme court.
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