Pac-12 player group threatens to opt out, makes list of demands on injustice, safety

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Pac-12 player group threatens to opt out, makes list of demands on injustice, safety

Post by stlcatfan » August 2nd, 2020, 12:01 am

Looks like another nail in the coffin for football this fall. I get their COVID concerns, but the rest of their demands seem like they are trying to leverage their power and take advantage of the current situation. So what kind of "fair compensation" are they talking about? Are they demanding "hazard pay" or something? The Pac-12 commissioner should just say, "Yeah, you're right. Out of an abundance of caution, Pac-12 football has been postponed until a vaccine becomes available."

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Post by tmcats » August 2nd, 2020, 10:30 am

that article is really sketchy as to the athletes' demands. but it's certainly right in keeping with these confounding times, isn't it. players running the show (I can't say 'inmates' as that would be racist of me). frankly if this happens, it's just another nail-in-hand for the coffin that once was the greatest game in sports.
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Post by tmcats » August 2nd, 2020, 10:56 am

well, here are the demands. amongst them, some of which are quite reasonable by the way, but here's the best one, see below. now, 50% of k-state football revenue ($48 million) would be $24 million annually. that would mean each scholarship player would receive $282,352.94 annually for doning the purple. not a bad starting salary. :rofl:

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Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.


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Post by PurpleOnWhite » August 2nd, 2020, 12:24 pm

tmcats wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 10:56 am
well, here are the demands. amongst them, some of which are quite reasonable by the way, but here's the best one, see below. now, 50% of k-state football revenue ($48 million) would be $24 million annually. that would mean each scholarship player would receive $282,352.94 annually for doning the purple. not a bad starting salary. :rofl:

Fair Market Pay, Rights, & Freedoms
Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.


https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us ... all-season
Wouldn’t take long at KState for their share to be $1.50. And I guess they failed to recognize that Title IX just might come into play.

When is an adult going to stand up and say: “There are many who would take your place for what we now offer. Thank you for your time and efforts. We wish you well.”
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Post by KITNooga » August 2nd, 2020, 1:38 pm

tmcats wrote:
August 2nd, 2020, 10:56 am
well, here are the demands. amongst them, some of which are quite reasonable by the way, but here's the best one, see below. now, 50% of k-state football revenue ($48 million) would be $24 million annually. that would mean each scholarship player would receive $282,352.94 annually for doning the purple. not a bad starting salary. :rofl:

Fair Market Pay, Rights, & Freedoms
Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.


https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us ... all-season
this is just the second step in the 'spiral of death' that is college sports. it's not about righting wrongs, it's not about injustice. it's about the benjamins.

and the NCAA will consider this, because they too are on the 'crack' that is the revenue stream.

I will watch KSU sports. I will listen in on radio. I am just done with paying $$$ into the system. done with donations. done with supporting a process that I can no longer respect.

it is with some significant sadness that I now say: no more KSU. thanks for the memories. we had some good times. but it really is just a take-take-take relationship.

this likely offends many who 'bleed purple'. but sometimes, there just comes a time when enough is enough.


I do not begrudge the safety concerns. I do take great offense at leveraging for other issues and to tack the $$$ onto it? just really clarifies what it's all really about.

enough.
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Post by stlcatfan » August 2nd, 2020, 2:29 pm

I understand the COVID concerns, but the rest?

Because NCAA sports exploit college athletes physically, economically and academically, and also disproportionately harm Black college athletes, #WeAreUnited.

Really? I wish when I was in college I could have been "exploited" by getting a free education, tutoring services, training table, top of the line weight rooms, hang out in great facilities, get top-notch coaching, traveling all over the country, and having the ability to showcase my talents every weekend on national television, playing the game I love.

And how are Black college athletes disproportionately harmed? How many of these kids came from poor inner city families and have been able to use their free education to get themselves and their families out of poverty? If you never went to class, used illegal drugs, and had others do your homework then you have no one to blame but yourself if you failed.

Because unjust rules prevent the 98% of college football and basketball players who won’t go pro from capitalizing economically on what would otherwise be the most valuable years of our lives, including many Black players from low-income homes, #WeAreUnited.

Which unjust rules would these happen to be? Those who go pro will potentially make millions of dollars. Those who don't, get a college degree without being ten of thousands of dollars in debt like the rest of the student population whose parents aren't millionaires. They also have connections that most of us will never have due to them playing major college sports.

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Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.
LOL

This is just another reason why I have lost interest in all sports. I dumped cable a couple years ago, but did sign up for ESPN+ last year to watch K-State sports and a little bit of other Big 12 teams, but I won't even be doing that this year. I will still check the final scores and maybe watch the 5-minute recap on YouTube, but I will not spend any more time and money on sports. I'm through with the politics and the greed. The best thing that can happen for college football (IMO) is for it to be cancelled for the 2020 season.

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Post by Hypeman » August 2nd, 2020, 5:39 pm

Perhaps it’s time for sports and colleges to separate?
Let these kids go semi-pro and use their earnings to pay for tuition like all other students do. Let these semi-pro teams cover their own costs and facilities. If they want to use the university’s stadium, pay some rent.

Or perhaps these star athletes can go semi-pro and the colleges all go to the DIII model and recruit other athletes? DIII still has football, and the players pay to play.

This stuff would all be laughable if there wasn’t so much money involved. But due to the money, these athletics programs just attract a lot of scum. It’s too bad they have become the focus of most universities.

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Post by tmcats » August 2nd, 2020, 6:53 pm

you know, these are youngsters. most of them probably damn good kids. but they're caught up in the times driven by liberal media and organizations like blm that don't have the student-athletes' interests at heart.

seriously, the media is after chaos and liberal social justice nonsense: virtue-signaling, safe spaces, cancel culture. blm and many of these type organizations are after way more than their namesakes. ultimately, they want a socialist state. this college sports thing plays into their narrative like hand-in-glove.

young athletes catch all that energy, find it appealing (remember what Churchill said about youth), and believe they really do matter. they don't. they're little more than chits in a game way bigger than sports.

i think this burns itself out for lack of reason. we'll see.
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Post by catl » August 2nd, 2020, 8:32 pm

NFL and NBA should set up minor leagues for players who want to play for money out of high school, just like MLB. I'm tired of a bunch of entitled, coddled jocks thinking they have a platform for telling the rest of us what to think. Talk about killing the golden goose.
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Post by tmcats » August 3rd, 2020, 11:24 am

yep. it's clearly a 'golden goose' scenario we're seeing play out. but It's not the kids, it's the culture. watch what's going on around us and how these kinds of 'causes' are celebrated by liberals and the media.

because these athletes are youngsters, many still in their teens for god's sake, because of that they are easily persuaded. guys like bilas make their case for them. they jump in like troops on omaha beach, then drown. (that's probably a poor comparison.)

it would be nice to see some adults step in. but I'm not sure they exist in sports. it's why they're there, so to speak. and academics are completely lost in socialism. it would be the height of hypocrisy for them to criticize this movement, right? they helped create it.
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