2024 KSU Mens Varsity Baseball Season

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Re: 2024 KSU Mens Varsity Baseball Season

Post by bhoovy » May 23rd, 2024, 6:39 pm

OU committed 7 errors today against ku and gave them all kinds of base runners and extra outs and still beat them 7-5. Why can’t we have a game with someone giving us charity opportunities like that?
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Post by stlcatfan » May 23rd, 2024, 8:03 pm

WildcatEngineer wrote:
May 23rd, 2024, 2:14 pm
Winning ALWAYS makes a difference.

My repeat rant - It is not Memorial Day yet and most of the Colleges are done with the 2024 season. If there is any sport that needs to have their structure examined it is BASEBALL.
- not enough NCAA approved scholarships
- too many summer leagues that are in competition with college programs
- MLB not supporting/working with College Programs to develop overall Baseball
- the College Season needs to be examined. Start after The Final 4 and end just before Football
- think out of the box and look at integrating MLB's Farm Teams with College Baseball.
The current system favors the southern schools -- big time.
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Post by epicsnyder » May 24th, 2024, 8:30 pm

bhoovy wrote:
May 23rd, 2024, 6:39 pm
OU committed 7 errors today against ku and gave them all kinds of base runners and extra outs and still beat them 7-5. Why can’t we have a game with someone giving us charity opportunities like that?
Wouldn't matter. We'd piss ourselves and lose just like they did.

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Post by epicsnyder » May 24th, 2024, 8:30 pm

stlcatfan wrote:
May 23rd, 2024, 8:03 pm
WildcatEngineer wrote:
May 23rd, 2024, 2:14 pm
Winning ALWAYS makes a difference.

My repeat rant - It is not Memorial Day yet and most of the Colleges are done with the 2024 season. If there is any sport that needs to have their structure examined it is BASEBALL.
- not enough NCAA approved scholarships
- too many summer leagues that are in competition with college programs
- MLB not supporting/working with College Programs to develop overall Baseball
- the College Season needs to be examined. Start after The Final 4 and end just before Football
- think out of the box and look at integrating MLB's Farm Teams with College Baseball.
The current system favors the southern schools -- big time.
It doesn't "favor" them. They have MUCH more talent.

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Post by stlcatfan » May 25th, 2024, 6:47 am

epicsnyder wrote:
May 24th, 2024, 8:30 pm
stlcatfan wrote:
May 23rd, 2024, 8:03 pm

The current system favors the southern schools -- big time.
It doesn't "favor" them. They have MUCH more talent.
With the way the season is structured, the southern (and West Coast) schools have more talent because they have nicer weather, especially during the early part of the season. In addition, most of the best players grew up in the southern U.S. and the West Coast.

It's long been known that northern schools are typically at a disadvantage in college baseball due to colder climate. Why do we play games outdoors in February? Moving the beginning of the season up, even just a few weeks, would make a big difference. Some have suggested starting college baseball season around April 1 and have it go to around the 4th of July.
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Post by bhoovy » May 25th, 2024, 10:46 pm

They were showing a little of the so called projections tonight and showed who they currently consider the last 4 in and last 4 out. KSU was in the last 4 in. I’ve been saying I did not believe they were any type of lock. And this projection as the last 4 in means in their minds it’s very up in the air. I know there’s going to be at least one bid stealer tomorrow out of the AAC, as East Carolina was the only team projected to go but they’re not in the final. And in the Pac12 final, 1 seed Arizona is losing to 4 seed usc who wasn’t projected to be in. And in the Big10 final tomorrow it’s the 2 seed Nebraska and the 8 seed Penn St. I believe Nebraska is projected to be in but Penn St is definitely not.

I’m just not holding my breath about KSU not getting in and if they don’t I don’t believe it will be near the injustice of last year. This years squad played a better schedule but didn’t win many of those OOC games that were good for the RPI. The offense really fizzled the last third of the season. Defense had issues. And the pitching was very inconsistent.

If I had to bet I’d say they don’t make it and it will definitely be their own fault. And when are they going to hold Hughes to the same standard and other HC’s? We’re been a very average club at best for 5-6 years now. No post season. No conference title. Not even a top 3 finish. Not even a finals game appearance in the conference tournament. The bar is set very low evidentially if we don’t get in this year and he’s not at least on the hot seat. Because barring some major portal commitments and some guys really turning the corner with who could come back, next years team is looking at a lower fourth of the conference finish most likely.
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Post by WildcatEngineer » May 26th, 2024, 1:30 pm

Bhoovy,
You have a much better overall knowledge base of KSU Baseball than I. But when KSU does an evaluation on changing a Head Coach, the first question is who are you going to get that is better?

Baseball is and probably will continue to be a non-revenue sport for KSU How do you stay in budget for Coaching salaries, travel, and recruiting when you get on that new coach roller coaster?

I do not have a great answer. I just do not believe there is going to be much difference in revenue if we change Coaching staffs.
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Post by bhoovy » May 26th, 2024, 1:45 pm

Kansas went and got an LSU assistant. A perennial national power. Ku looks to be a very different program since the hire. Have elevated recruiting. Moved up in the standings. Will likely be just barely on the outside of the tournament field. But it’s just year two.

So that would be where I’d probably start looking. A national power program with a guy ready to take over as a HC. Several ACC and SEC programs to look at. And just like with football and basketball, look at those HC’s of the non power 5 that have had multiple years of success. To me it’s not necessarily hard to form a list, but to get someone to say yes. But KSU has nice facilities and the conference will still be one of the best baseball conferences in the country next year. Adding some really good programs.
How about looking at Oregon St? They’ve continually had good teams, but now have no conference. Would that coach consider a move?

I don’t follow the other programs or conferences much, but again the list should be fairly easy to come up with.
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Post by WildcatEngineer » May 26th, 2024, 4:28 pm

bhoovy wrote:
May 26th, 2024, 1:45 pm
Kansas went and got an LSU assistant. A perennial national power. Ku looks to be a very different program since the hire. Have elevated recruiting. Moved up in the standings. Will likely be just barely on the outside of the tournament field. But it’s just year two.

So that would be where I’d probably start looking. A national power program with a guy ready to take over as a HC. Several ACC and SEC programs to look at. And just like with football and basketball, look at those HC’s of the non power 5 that have had multiple years of success. To me it’s not necessarily hard to form a list, but to get someone to say yes. But KSU has nice facilities and the conference will still be one of the best baseball conferences in the country next year. Adding some really good programs.
How about looking at Oregon St? They’ve continually had good teams, but now have no conference. Would that coach consider a move?

I don’t follow the other programs or conferences much, but again the list should be fairly easy to come up with.
BH, that philosophy is exactly what ADGT did for Volleyball.
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Post by bhoovy » May 26th, 2024, 9:17 pm

WildcatEngineer wrote:
May 26th, 2024, 4:28 pm
bhoovy wrote:
May 26th, 2024, 1:45 pm
Kansas went and got an LSU assistant. A perennial national power. Ku looks to be a very different program since the hire. Have elevated recruiting. Moved up in the standings. Will likely be just barely on the outside of the tournament field. But it’s just year two.

So that would be where I’d probably start looking. A national power program with a guy ready to take over as a HC. Several ACC and SEC programs to look at. And just like with football and basketball, look at those HC’s of the non power 5 that have had multiple years of success. To me it’s not necessarily hard to form a list, but to get someone to say yes. But KSU has nice facilities and the conference will still be one of the best baseball conferences in the country next year. Adding some really good programs.
How about looking at Oregon St? They’ve continually had good teams, but now have no conference. Would that coach consider a move?

I don’t follow the other programs or conferences much, but again the list should be fairly easy to come up with.
BH, that philosophy is exactly what ADGT did for Volleyball.
It’s been a very small sample size so far but has looked like a very good decision.
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